The Pac-12 Thread....

Then, let me clarify, USC would have curb stomped LSU or Bama in the NCG last year.

Whomever posted this nonsense needs to go see a friggin Dr.

Also, you now have lost credibility.

Geeez....


gb2

GB2...I disagree since it's what loyalty is all about. You, me and everyone else gets riled up on occasion and spouts something that may be a reach. Sometimes a huge reach.

By the way last year in the BCS game I predicted that Bama was going to make LSU play like a high school!   I totally over estimated the quality of LSU. 

GB2...I disagree since it's what loyalty is all about. You, me and everyone else gets riled up on occasion and spouts something that may be a reach. Sometimes a huge reach.

Got no problem with loyalty Yam...but to say that "Usc would curb stomp" the number 1 or number 2 defense in the Nation is simply assanine.

I, like many, have loyalty, but sometimes peeps say some crazy shizzz.......lol.


gb2

I, like many, have loyalty, but sometimes peeps say some crazy shizzz.......lol.

GB2.......and many of those peeps are SEC fans.
I will admit that you're in a lucky spot on that one. In many cases it's borderline impossible to find SEC fan's incomprehensibly full of themselves lately regarding their recent successes.
In fact I find many that put the conference above favoring their own school.

Someday I'll find a conference I dislike enough to bash them but it seems more effort than I wish to expend.

I will venture an opinion having followed OSU very close last year and ditto on Stanford. There is no chance in hell that either would have been as humbled as LSU was by Bama's defense.  Neither would have played almost an entire game in their own territory. Bama's d was a good that day as LSU's offense was bad.

gb2,

What evidence do you have that proves USC would not have curb stomped either team?  Since football Championships on the National level are decided by popularity contest and not football games, how could you establish that one opinion is more valid than the other?

Believe Bama and LSU are not banging on the door for a H & H with the Trojans.  If they were, USC would schedule those games in a heartbeat. (As would many other teams in the country)

If USC were in the SEC, they would be the same dominant force they are in the PAC 12.  Frankly, I think you already know this, along with millions of other CFB fans.

There are lots of threads where you can go and bang your chest and chant the greatness of your SEC teams, this isn't one of "those" threads.  Nor, does this thread entertain itself with bashing other conferences and their members.

The opinion that USC could beat LSU or Bama at the end of last season is not a slight to those schools on this thread, it is a compliment to USC who many of us believe to be the gold standard of College Football.

As to having to see a Dr., no worries, at any PAC 12 event there is an inordinate amount of them present to see their schools compete.

Now, don't blow my fifty spot (Mich & 7) on tee times and beer this summer!

ED......

What evidence do you have that proves USC would not have curb stomped either team? 

None, just like you have none that they would have. Matter of fact, with Usc's past 3 year history of mediocrity ( 9-4, 8-5, 10-2 ) I would say they would prolly be the ones who GOT curbed stomped.

Believe Bama and LSU are not banging on the door for a H & H with the Trojans

Again, you don't know what conversations have, or have not taken place. Bama has NOOOOOOO problem going on the raod under Saban. Lsu I can't speak for. But all this bs about the SEC school's OOC shouldn't include Bama under Saban. Just look at his travel records. You will agree.

If USC were in the SEC, they would be the same dominant force they are in the PAC 12

Bullshat. Like I said, they can't even " dominate" the Pac12 .....as recent  his-to-ree shows you.

I don't understand all this hype and fascination with a team that hasn't accomplished anything in the last 3 years, and hasn't won a Bcs Title........

Now, don't blow my fifty spot (Mich & 7) on tee times and beer this summer!

That ain't "blowin" it sir.....thats just fun..!!!!!!.....



gb2

None, just like you have none that they would have. Matter of fact, with Usc's past 3 year history of mediocrity ( 9-4, 8-5, 10-2 )

There are many schools (including in the SEC) that would give anything to have a 3 year stretch like that without being under sanctions. That USC was able to do so while under sanctions and with a complete change in staff, not to mention the loss of a few key players because of the NCAA granted free agency that players received from the NCAA, most other schools would be looking at 3-5 win seasons over that time period.

I would say they would prolly be the ones who GOT curbed stomped.

The USC team of the first 5 games of last year, I would agree. However, the USC team of the last 7 games of the season would be a different story. USC was a very young team last season and the defense was still learning Monte Kiffin's system. However, following the bye, that USC team grew up and were a much more formidable opponent than earlier in the season. Would they have "curbstomped" LSU or 'Bama, I highly doubt it. I also highly doubt that they would have gotten "curbstomped" either. I know one thing, they at least would have scored on 'Bama. LOL!!

Bullshat. Like I said, they can't even " dominate" the Pac12 .....as recent  his-to-ree shows you.

I don't understand all this hype and fascination with a team that hasn't accomplished anything in the last 3 years, and hasn't won a Bcs Title........

2009 USC finished 9-4. This was an expected "down year" (how many teams can call 9-4 a down year) after all of the years of success. After all, we had a true freshman quarterback and a fairly green defense.

2010 USC finished 8-5. This was the first season of sanctions and several key players were lost due to the aforementioned "free agency that allowed USC players to transfer anywhere they wanted without sitting out a season. We also brought in an entirely new coaching staff as well. If not for the efforts of Matt Barkley and the coaching staff, we may have lost many more players than we did and had an even worse season. 

2011 USC finished 10-2. Most teams in the country would take a 10-2 finish any time and been happy with it. This team started slow but grew up gained momentum and by the end of the season was playing as well as anyone in the country. 

If you don't understand the hype and fascination, you haven't seen them play. As for the BCS title, we all saw that game, it was the single most dominant performance in the BCS era in a championship game. The BCS can say it didn't happen, but I have a DVD that shows different!!   

What evidence do you have that proves USC would not have curb stomped either team? Since football Championships on the National level are decided by popularity contest and not football games, how could you establish that one opinion is more valid than the other?

I can't predict an outcome on that game but I also can't think of a single team that progressed as far as USC did from beginning to ent.

Believe Bama and LSU are not banging on the door for a H & H with the Trojans. If they were, USC would schedule those games in a heartbeat. (As would many other teams in the country)

There is a huge portion of college football fans that wonder why the SEC as a whole does not travel as much as most other football coferences. USC is one that does not have a problem traveling.

If USC were in the SEC, they would be the same dominant force they are in the PAC 12. Frankly, I think you already know this, along with millions of other CFB fans.

ED...that one should read "a dominant force" IMO.

There are lots of threads where you can go and bang your chest and chant the greatness of your SEC teams, this isn't one of "those" threads. Nor, does this thread entertain itself with bashing other conferences and their members.

True....most of us know how deep D1 is as a rule.

The opinion that USC could beat LSU or Bama at the end of last season is not a slight to those schools on this thread, it is a compliment to USC who many of us believe to be the gold standard of College Football.

On a continual basis and not in brief glimpses USC is one of the premier programs in college football history and will be back as one rite quick...like this year in fact. 

As to having to see a Dr., no worries, at any PAC 12 event there is an inordinate amount of them present to see their schools compete.

Now, don't blow my fifty spot (Mich & 7) on tee times and beer this summer!

Now we need to move on to college sports where there is no debate.

Is there a conference that dwarfs every other conference in national titles for all sports? Does any conference have schools that measure national titles in 3 digits....like ove 100?    

Gb2, It's a who know's question. I suppose it's the one good point about a 4 team playoff. Somebodies questions are going to get answered.


I would have jump the bet offer if the say it's the week before.(I will take the bet if everything is the same then as it is now) Too much can change, injury wise, unplanned jail time{SEC}, so on.


If there's on game the Tide should be concerned with it's Michigan......  

     

If there's on game the Tide should be concerned with it's Michigan......  

Nah......That would be Oregon .........

in Miami.......


gb2

last 2 games between Oregon and Michigan has Oregon 2-0 and the last one was a curbstomping

gb2,

You'll find there is a good group that hangs around these parts and you are always welcome to drop a post. 

You will also find that everyone here has a healthy respect for the tradition, history and success of your Crimson Tide.  Alabama is an outstanding program and deserved everything they earned last year......

And, LSU deserved the humiliating whipping Bama threw down in the NCG.

Good luck to the Tide this year, you guys have the BEST coach in CFB today. (Chip Kelly is second only to Nick)

ED.....


Thanks bro. Pretty cool peeps over here. Some of you are in my favs, so I bounce in and out.

And, LSU deserved the humiliating whipping Bama threw down in the NCG

My wife and I were at the first 9-6 travesty in T-Town. We left that game and didnt' say much. We knew we had blown it. But hey, even the Lsu fans had nothing to say on the way out. It was eerily quiet.

We both knew there was gonna be a rematch. Whether they "deserved " it or not, I don't know.

But I sure enjoyed it...lol.


gb2

Btw...

Good luck to the Ducks this year also.

I really thought ya'll were gonna beat Auburn, and being a Bama fan, I kinda hoped ya would...lol.......


gb2

It kind of a nice, warm fuzzy feeling watching the two "number two" teams in the conferences cuddle up to each other. It's really smart forming a pre-season support group to get Bama and the Ducks through the upcoming traumas.....

That is right Trucker, Ducks and Bama are bringing you down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is only a matter of time before Utah joins with us in our quest.......read'em and weep.

ED, I AM reading em!! The weeping is for you.


I will go as far as to say Utah will beat Oregon before they beat the Trojans....... 

Utah is the only team in the Southern Division that even has a remote chance of defeating you this year.  Do you admit or deny the overall weakness of the Southern Division?

Are you prepared to acknowledge the supreme superiority of the Northern Division?

Be happy to pretend to have returned to greatness for as long as the facade last before 11-3-2012.

Well, our record in your home stadium does cause me a bit of concern, but now is not the time to fret about that. Besides, it is a new era in the PAC, and Oregon rules it!!!!!!!!!!!

PS.......I heard from someone who overheard from someone, who knows somebody, that your players are partying on the beach with breezy's every night and quickly falling out of football shape.  

Utah is the only team in the Southern Division that even has a remote chance of defeating you this year.  Do you admit or deny the overall weakness of the Southern Division?

Soooooo, if Usc " dominates " the Southern division, it ain't really a nig deal now huh?

Snared in your own web ED..........


gb2

Utah is the only team in the Southern Division that even has a remote chance of defeating you this year.  Do you admit or deny the overall weakness of the Southern Division?

Definitely a down year for the South Division. No arguing that.

Are you prepared to acknowledge the supreme superiority of the Northern Division?

Trojans are not interested in divisions or conferences. We are only interested in our own superiority and in that.....we are supreme!!

Well, our record in your home stadium does cause me a bit of concern, but now is not the time to fret about that. Besides, it is a new era in the PAC, and Oregon rules it!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay kids. You've had your fun little party. Daddy's home now and he's pissed. He knows you've been sneaking around drinking his beer. Hide your bong and prepare for a beating!!

ED, Actually, I don't see that much more strength in the North anyway. I'd say Utah is number two in the south and they'd probably beat Stanford or Washington.


So this the North is that much stronger is crap anyways. a bit deeper, but that's nothing to write home about anyways.    

I'm not sure either division separates itself from the other and I think the season will prove both may have superior teams. There are more qustions in the south but all the answers won't be negatives when the bell rings.

I see the sun is taking its toll on you fellas.  Utah can not beat Stanford, and Wash. would be a toss up.

gb2,  Upon review, I have Mich and 7 1/2, you are so toast with that extra 1/2.

T12, A down year?  Ya think?  You send a southern representative to Eugene who was 6-6 and coming off a 50-0 beating.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Oregon was putting the beatdown on USC "BEFORE" any sanctions were levied against the program.  Last time Oregon came to the home of Troy, they sent 95K crying into the unsavory streets at "O" dark thirty.

I agree with and expect increased performance across the board in the conference this year.  If I had to choose a dark horse as most improved from last year, I'll take WSU.

Now, I'm going to be on the road for a few days, so I won't get to be my annoying self while I am out of pocket.  But, I will share with you where I'm going, because I am excited about it and I know it bores you to tears.

I am going to Ojai to look at a few houses and check out the general surroundings.  I am looking for a permanent vacation home and Ojai might serve as a good base for at least 6-7 months of the year.  I haven't been through there in 22 years, but I remember the small town, and many fruit orchards and avacado trees.

Do any of you Trojans out there know much about this place? I'm expecting Norman Rockwell type environment, is it true?

You guys stay safe and I'll be back and be disagreeable in a short while. 

ED,

     I've been to Ojai once and that was almost 20 years ago. I actually went to that Neverland Ranch that Michael Jackson had out there. From what I remember, Ojai was pretty cool. Neverland Ranch was pretty cool too, but weird for a grown man to own. Maybe you could but that?!?

T12,

I thought Neverland was outside Santa Barbara.  I know SB is about an hour north up the coast from Ojai.  And, I've been told I could get to USC games in about 1 1/2 hour.  (There would have to be an alternative comedy club closer don't you think?)

If we have established anything thus far it would be that 20 to 25 years ago the place was nice.  I look forward to getting back to see it again.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Oregon was putting the beatdown on USC "BEFORE" any sanctions were levied against the program.

C'mon bro! LOL... what a few games? & SC was putting the beat down on Oregon for like 10 years straight kid! Not to mention we killed the Ducks on their turf last year while being on the "bad boy list" with the NCAA. What now boy??

What's the overall record between SC and Oregon???????? Thought so. Shhhhhhhhh

Lol, at the Utah comment. Utah needs to beat the Boise State's and Colorado's before they should be touting their credibility on the national level. The Pac South is about as easy as it gets and they struggled last year.

Lol at the Utah comment. Utah needs to beat Colorado (their new rival in the Pac) before they tout their Pac presence. Didnt they also get destroyed by Cal as well...just terrible.

Lol at the Utah comment. Utah needs to beat Colorado (their new rival in the Pac) before they tout their Pac presence. Didnt they also get destroyed by Cal as well...just terrible.

Point? SC got destroyed by ASU last year, it was Utah's first season and being the true number 2 team in the southern division shows they are a force to be reckoned with as of now. 6 years ago you would've laughed in someone's face if they said Stanford would become a top 5 team.