Sorry, Blue, but Big Red here thinks his right to know who owns guns trumps any right to privacy you may think you have. If fact he apparently feels that the right to privacy does not exist at all since since he has no issue whatsoever with law enforcement showing up at your door whenever they wish just to rifle through your home to make sure your on the level. After all, if you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.
That's right he murdered his mother so he could STEAL HER LEGALLY BOUGHT GUNS and used them to kill the kids. If it hadn't been her it would have been someone else or he would have used another means to kill those kids.I think the point of his comment was that perhaps it should have been illegal to buy the AR-15 and other types of assault rifles to begin with. He then would have had to rely on other, less lethel fire power and some of those 20 children might be alive today. No, it would not have stopped him, but if a less accurate semi-automatic hand gun was used instead of a semi-automatic rifle, a few grieving families might not be grieving today.
If I were a criiminal, why would I go after n=more guns? Being a criminal means you already have munitions.Because guns are worth money and can be sold for quick cash. A criminal probably has their own TV, but that's not going to prevent them from stealing yours if they get the chance to.
I think the point of his comment was that perhaps it should have been illegal to buy the AR-15 and other types of assault rifles to begin with. He then would have had to rely on other, less lethel fire power and some of those 20 children might be alive today. No, it would not have stopped him, but if a less accurate semi-automatic hand gun was used instead of a semi-automatic rifle, a few grieving families might not be grieving today.
As far as the news reports that I have read...the AR15 was left in the car and NOT used in this tragedy. He used pistols?You're correct, Toy. Lanza used the two "less lethal", "less accurate" handguns to do these killings. A 9mm Sig-Sauer and a 9mm Glock were found in the school. The rifle was found in the back seat of his mother's car in the parking lot.
Any confirmation on this?
There is a picture going around the Internet that I have seen about a dozen times today that claims that Israeli teachers are packing heat. Well, are they? The answer is “NO.” There may be some exceptions in dangerous areas like the West Bank (where five percent of Israelis live), but in general, Israeli teachers are not walking around like it’s the Wild Wild West, strapped with a six shooter. My wife is a teacher in the Israeli public school system and I am pretty she doesn’t carry a gun (or want to). No, our teachers are not focused on shooting, but educating. That doesn’t mean, however, that we don’t protect young students.
In the picture, the students are on an outing. While it appears that the teacher is holding a rifle, I have never seen such a thing in ten years of living here. Rest assured however, they are under armed protection. In most cases it is an armed guard or a soldier that will accompany a class, not the teacher. And my guess is that the woman with the gun is a security guard, not a teacher.
Secondly, they are not armed in the classroom. Is that really the image you want to imprint on the minds of six-year-olds? (That would be Hamas) On the other hand. I have never seen a school in Israel that was not fenced in. You must go through a locked gate that is guarded by an armed shomer, a security guard. He or she, on the other hand, is not concerned with educating, but protecting. He or she will ask you why you are there? “What is your child’s name?” “Show me your I.D. card.” And he or she would not let you bring a weapon inside.
These types of massacres don’t seem to happen here for other reasons as well. Despite the stereotype of Israel being a violent nation, it is a million times (slight exaggeration) easier to get a weapon in the US than it is in Israel. Gun Control laws are very strict here.
Only those with the rank of Captain or Lieutenant Colonel for at least two years can qualify to own a gun after the army. And those who do have guns are taught to guard them carefully. For soldiers who take their weapons home, it must be on their persons at all times or under lock and key.
Losing a weapon will get you a jail sentence, as my wife’s childhood friend, Moti, found out two decades ago. He left his gun in his car because he was just running into a minimart. He came back and the gun was gone. He spent six months in jail and God only knows where that gun ended up.
Hunting is not popular in Israel, so it would be rare to see someone with five or six hunting rifles and therefore, neither would their son, who spends ten hours a day playing mortal combat, have access to them.
We are fond of saying Guns don’t kill people, people do… But we could also say thatMentally unstable people who can’t obtain assault rifles or even pistols are far less likely to commit mass murder.
Assault rifles are banned in Israel, except in areas where there is a security risk such as the West Bank.
Good point on why gun control does not work. That's why we need to take the next step and call for the voluntary handover of all guns.Hey Professor, I hope you are in the front of the line to go knock on someone's door and tell them you want to search their house for a gun. If you are i sure as hell hope you have your life insurance in order because you won't live long.
Afterward, we go door to door until they are out of the hands of the private citizen.
Adam Lanza shot 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., using a semiautomatic, military-style assault rifle made by Bushmaster. William Spengler Jr. used the same type of Bushmaster rifle to kill two firefighters last week in Webster, N.Y. The Washington snipers, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo, also used a Bushmaster in a spree that killed 10 people in 2002.
Bushmasters are by no means the only assault weapons of choice among mass killers (the Aurora shooter used a Smith & Wesson), but the brand’s repeated presence in murderous incidents reflects Bushmaster’s enormous popularity in the gun world, the result of a [successful marketing] campaign aimed at putting military firepower and machismo in the hands of civilians. Gun owners once talked about the need for personal protection and sport hunting, but out-of-control ad campaigns like Bushmaster’s have replaced revolvers and shotguns with highly lethal paramilitary fantasies.
The guns, some of which come in camouflage and desert khaki, bristle with features useful only to an infantry soldier or a special-forces operative. A flash suppressor on the end of a barrel makes it possible to shoot at night without a blinding flare. Quick-change magazines let troops reload easily. Barrel shrouds allow precise control without fear of burns from a muzzle that grows hot after multiple rounds are fired. But now anyone can own these guns, and millions are in civilian hands.
“There is an allure to this weapon that makes it unusually attractive,” Scott Knight, former chairman of the International Chiefs of Police Firearms Committee, [told USA Today], speaking of the Bushmaster rifles. “The way it looks, the way it handles — it screams assault weapon.”
The company's catalog and ads show soldiers moving on patrol through jungles, Bushmasters at the ready. “When you need to perform under pressure, Bushmaster delivers,” says the advertising copy, superimposed over the silhouette of a soldier holding his helmet against the backdrop of an American flag. “Forces of opposition, bow down. You are single-handedly outnumbered,” said a 2010 catalog, peddling an assault rifle billed as “the ultimate military combat weapons system.” (Available to anyone for $2,500.)
In case that message was too subtle, the company appealed directly to the male egos of its most likely customers. “Consider your man card reissued,” said [one Bushmaster campaign] (pulled off the Web after the Newtown shooting), next to a photo of a carbine. “If it’s good enough for the professional, it’s good enough for you.”
The effect of these marketing campaigns on fragile minds is all too obvious, allowing deadly power in the wrong hands. But given their financial success, gun makers have apparently decided that the risk of an occasional massacre is part of the cost of doing business.
Adam Lanza shot 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., using a semiautomatic, military-style assault rifle made by BushmasterExcept he didn't use the rifle, but the two handguns he had on him instead.