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What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

Posted on: January 26, 2012 4:01 pm

The Prince Fielder signing should push the Tigers' 2012 payroll up over $130 million.

Is there any money left?

Could be, but the Tigers are unlikely to spend it on a full-time designated hitter, or on a fifth-starter candidate who would require a guaranteed major-league contract.

They might, according to sources, still try to spend it on Yoenis Cespedes.

While the team has basically ruled out going after someone like Johnny Damon or Edwin Jackson, the Tigers remain interested in Cespedes, the 26-year-old Cuban outfielder who became a free agent Wednesday. The Tigers have been among the teams showing the most interest in Cespedes, and have had conversations about him with agent Adam Katz.

Cespedes, if he proves ready for the big leagues right away, could play left field, with Delmon Young moving to more of a full-time DH role. For now, the Tigers plan to have Young share left field and DH with Andy Dirks, Don Kelly and Clete Thomas, with Fielder and Miguel Cabrera also seeing a few days as DH.

The Tigers had worked hard to try to add another starter before turning their attention to Fielder late last week. They met Roy Oswalt's asking price, sources said, only to be told by Oswalt that he wouldn't agree to come to Detroit (even after a recruiting phone call from Justin Verlander).

The focus now is on veteran starters who would require less of a commitment, with the possibility that the Tigers don't add anyone before spring training begins. They could then audition Jacob Turner, Andy Oliver, Drew Smyly and others, and then search the trade market if they're not satisfied with what they see.

We've already seen that they're willing to be bold, and that the owner is willing to spend.

When Mike Ilitch told his baseball people that he was willing to make the huge commitment to Fielder, he explained it simply.

"I think the city needs it," Ilitch said. "I think we need it. I think our players need it."


Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:48 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

It worries me a bit having Cabrera at 3rd where he has made 5 errors in 14 games in a Tigers uniform at the hot corner.  But I will take that if it means Brandon "Useless" crInge is out of the lineup.
It is a big worry that Cabrera would be at 3B, for his 9 year career he has not played many games at 3B. The only 2 full seasons he was the everyday 3B he made over 30 errors a season, so you have expect that it going to be hard watching him play defense from time to time. When my favorite team is on defense, I keep on thinking don't hit the ball toward Soriano.

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: February 1, 2012 1:06 am

The Tigers deserve a World Series

The Ilitch family has spent a lot of money on the Tigers.  He hired a GM who built two WS champions in Miami, though he wasn't around to see the second one win.  The problem all along has been that FA's in every sport except hockey just don't want to go to Detroit.  When Pudge signed, he made it "cool" to for others to sign with the Tigers, but it hasn't quite happened for them yet.  
That is why Prince Fielder was such a huge signing for the Tigers.  Maybe this is the year that Ilitch and the Detroit fans finally start to see a return on Ilitch's faith and investments in the team.  It would be well-deserved. 

Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: January 27, 2012 4:36 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

I wouldn't be suprised in the least bit if Detroit goes after Cespedes.  They signed Delmon Young to a 1 year deal, so they could put Young in the DH role and put Cespedes in left field.  That would work out unbelievably, but not sure if that is going to happen or not.  Illitch has proven he is not afraid to spend money.

If they miss out on Cespedes -- It wouldn't suprise me in the least bit to see them making another deal thru a trade, as they will not let Young play in the OF.

I have a feeling they will be using a rotation of players as the 5th starter.  I heard today they were going to give Smyly a chance to win the spot in Spring Training.  If he can pitch good -- it would lock in our rotation, as it'd give us a left hander to go with all the right handers.  It'd also give Turner a chance to pitch some more in the minors to get himself ready.

It is a great year to be a Tigers fan.

To the guy mentioning the 2008 team -- the difference between the two teams is -- right now, Detroit's all-stars are all in their prime.  They don't have any aging stars to rely on as they did in 2008.  Their pitching staff is one of the youngest in the MLB with Verlander and Fister being the oldest at 27. 

Detroit starting lineup in 2012 -- the oldest starter in the lineup will be Raburn at 30.  Next oldest will be Peralta at 29.  Everyone else in the lineup will be between 24-27.

Dombrowski has built a team filled with players who are signed into their prime years.  They don't have the contract for players past their prime like they have had in past years.  No team in the MLB has as many young players locked up to long contracts as the Tigers do right now and the only contract extended past the age of 34 for the player is Fielder (his contract's last year he will be 36) 

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 27, 2012 12:54 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

If you're breaking the piggy bank might as well spend it all. World Series or bust! 

Sure. BUT... it's not just about one season.  This Tigers team is built to succeed for years to come.  Almost all of their key players are under 30 years old and in their prime.  And most are still under team control for a while, so the Tigers are in good position for at least 3 to 4 seasons including the season coming up.  That's what makes this Tigers team so exciting, it's not a 1 year or bust and team blows up kinda thing.   Verlander, Fister, Scherzer and Porcello unless they are traded aren't going anywhere for a while.  Fielder, Miggy, Vmart ( when he comes back), Avila, Boesch, Jackson aren't going anywhere either. 

Gonna be a good team for a while....

Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: January 27, 2012 8:14 am

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

Get Cespedes now. 

I wonder what kind of pitcher they might have in mind...there is not that much left on the market. I thought they might try to sign Francis to minor league contract or similar type of pitcher. No risk, just fall back option if youngsters are not ready in ST. 

Since: Jan 25, 2007
Posted on: January 27, 2012 12:14 am

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes


" ......the tigers didnt even have cabrera until 2008.....then if you want to compare to the 2008 team....cabrera started out slow....took him awhile...verlander pitched like crap....."

if you noticed i said compare to the 2008 team 

he said the 2007 team, but i remembered all the expectations for the tigers for the 2008 season, AFTER we got cabrera....SO ...i was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt since he said murderers row..before he tried to change it to the 2008 team from 2007...and we didnt even have cabrera in 2007  ....

verlander was 11-17 in 2008....the year people picked us to be real good.

i dont remember high expectations in 2007....people were still in awe of the 2006 team coming out of nowhere.....and all we really added was an aging gary sheffield who the yanks gave up on...expectations for the AL central, BUT definitely not murderers row.   

Since: Aug 28, 2011
Posted on: January 26, 2012 10:07 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

@BG- Murderer's Row in 2007? What line-up were you looking at?? Only one regular position player was under 30, Granderson. Magglio by far exceeded expectations across the board. Im sure you predicted his .366 BA or Polanco hitting .341. A 38 year old Sheffield coming off an injury that cost him most of '06. Still have Carlos Guillen having career year with 21 HRs and 102 RBIs. You could toss in Ivan Rodriguez, indisputable HOF, who was decling at 35 and hadn't even hit 15 HRs or had 70 RBIs in several years.
It may be statistical overkill but I don't see how you can compare the two teams except that both had made post-season appearances the year prior.
2007- Aging team that was already aged.
2012- Most dominant workhorse in all of baseball. SPs who win MVPs aren't one year wonders which he's proven. However, he is still getting better in his prime. The separation of these squads. Avila was less exposed than overworked when the playoffs hit. Add Prince. That is 4 position players and one SP all in their prime or still learning, Avila who were in the all-star game last year plus this team has Jose-Benoit not Jones-Rodney.

@Cleaves- Verlander was 18-6 at the seasoned age of 24 which was the best W/L% in the league. So to say JV pitched like crap is either severely misinformed or...must be only thing possible.

Illitch is willing to spend now. Cespedes would provide speed and power. He may not be a star right away but he would help so why not? Our OF could use him as its clear Delmon's gone so essentially it'd give him a year before daily duties.

Since: Jan 25, 2007
Posted on: January 26, 2012 8:26 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

yea i remember 2007....we were in first place doing well until gary sheffield got hurt around the all star break.....then he never really bounced back....he was having a big time first half also......the tigers didnt even have cabrera until 2008.....then if you want to compare to the 2008 team....cabrera started out slow....took him awhile...verlander pitched like name a combo any of our old teams had that could rival cabrera and fielder......2 of the top 5 hitters in the game......injuries are what always hurts this franchise..why are some fans comnplaining about mr I spending his money back on the team? he makes the money from US fans....would you rather he spent the money on damon and a scrub 5th pitcher like saunders or francis? im loving it.....nobodys ever a lock to win a WS....anything can happen once a team makes the playoffs in a 5 or 7 game series...just ask the giants or cardinals...but i feel alot better about winning the central and lining up for a postseason run....


Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: January 26, 2012 7:04 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

Remember 2007?  The Tigers were a mortal lock to win the Central Division.  In fact, they were probably going to be scoring over 1,000 runs with a virtual murderers row for a lineup.  hmmm, didn't even play .500 ball.  So, while it's good to have a bat behind Cabrera, let's be careful not to crown the Tigers AL Champs, let alone Central Division Champs.  Everyone knows about the poor the infield defense will be with Cabrera at third, Fielder at first, Raburn at second, and Peralta (good glove and arm, no range).  What they probably don't know unless they are fanatic, is that Fister and Porcello are sinkerball pitchers and thrive on infield defense...The Tigers have taken what would be a strength and have sacraficed that strength for the sake of protecting Cabrera in the lineup.

Now, with the bad news revealed, the Tigers still have an excellent chance at winning the Division.  But unless they improve their defense at second base and add speed and or OBP type guys in the one and two hole, they will not be able to defeat the Angels, Rangers, Yankees, or Rays in a seven game series....My point: Get Cespedes and pray he can hit MLB pitching and find a secondbaseman to replace Raburn's rock, er uh glove...then we can start marveling again like we did in 07 with hopefully better results. :-)

Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: January 26, 2012 5:14 pm

What's next for Tigers? Maybe Cespedes

The Tigers need to keep Delmon Young at DH and out of the outfield.  He is a butcher with a baseball glove.  It worries me a bit having Cabrera at 3rd where he has made 5 errors in 14 games in a Tigers uniform at the hot corner.  But I will take that if it means Brandon "Useless" crInge is out of the lineup.  Wish we could get one more starting pitcher...preferably a leftie!!  DETROIT ROCK CITY...yeah!

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