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Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:31 pm
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The Red Sox-Cubs soap opera spins forward as the clubs haggle over compensation, but the general parameters of a deal that will affect three clubs are in place, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the negotiations:

Not only will Theo Epstein take control of the Cubs, he will take Padres general manager Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod, one of Hoyer's assistant general managers in San Diego, with him. Josh Byrnes, the former Arizona general manager who currently is San Diego's senior vice-president for baseball operations, will replace Hoyer as the new Padres' GM. Ben Cherington, Epstein's top assistant, will succeed him as GM in Boston.

While Epstein will receive a five-year deal worth $18.5 million, Hoyer, likewise, is expected to receive a five-year contract with a significant bump in pay from his current salary as incentive to move. Hoyer currently is signed with the Padres through 2013, with and the club holds an option on him for 2014.

While Epstein would hold a presidency role, it would be a lateral move for Hoyer. However, he would be reunited with his very close friend, Epstein, and he would have large-market resources at his disposal.

The deal could be announced as early as Friday, though one source says that "a lot would have to happen" for everything to be put in place by then. As of late Thursday, particularly with Boston still holding up the Epstein part of the deal over steep compensation demands from the Cubs, it seemed realistic that these talks could spill into next week before things are finalized.

As of early Thursday evening, the Cubs had neither asked permission from Major League Baseball to hold a news conference on Friday, a World Series off day, nor had they asked permission from the Padres to speak with Hoyer.

Compensation issues are not limited to the Cubs and Red Sox in this elaborate game of executive hopscotch, either. Not only will the Cubs pay Boston for the right to take Epstein -- either financially or via players -- the Padres also are expected to be compensated by the Cubs for allowing Hoyer to break his contract.

That part, however, is not expected to be nearly as difficult a transaction as that which the Cubs are attempting to complete with Boston. San Diego most likely will receive one or two lower-level minor leaguers in return.

As for the Cubs and Red Sox, one source said Thursday night that he thought the two clubs were "getting close" on the compensation issues, though those talks have been ongoing for several days with Boston delighting in holding the sledgehammer.

Both Hoyer and McLeod worked under Epstein in Boston before they left the Red Sox for San Diego following the 2009 season. Hoyer was one of Epstein's top assistants and McLeod was director of amateur scouting for the Red Sox.

Under McLeod, among others, the Red Sox drafted outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury, right-hander Clay Buccholz and infielder Jed Lowrie.

Byrnes was one of Epstein's right-hand men for three seasons in Boston, a time during which the Red Sox drafted Ellsbury and Dustin Pedroia, before the Diamondbacks hired him to become their GM in October, 2005.
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Since: Nov 13, 2009
Posted on: November 26, 2011 6:32 pm
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

Very happy to see Hoyer leaving on a jet plane..  Last year he did good with most of Tower's players, so no history.  What's yet
to be decided are prospects after trading a way the Padres best player for prospects.   Not re-signing Jerry Hairston was a mistake.  The
free agent signings were mostly a joke except for two pitchers.  Adams has looked good in Texas.  Good way of screwing up a solid bullpen.  That trade cost them 10 games this season.  Towers sure looks good in Arizona after fixing up their bullpen.   Padre fans should be
happy.  Cub fans should be happy with Theo.   Probably a win, win for all except Padre fans who still have Moorad.




Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: October 22, 2011 11:25 am
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

Very happy to see Hoyer leaving on a jet plane.  Last year he did good with most of Tower's players, so no history.  What's yet
to be decided are prospects after trading a way the Padres best player for prospects.   Not re-signing Jerry Hairston was a mistake.  The
free agent signings were mostly a joke except for two pitchers.  Adams has looked good in Texas.  Good way of screwing up a solid bullpen.  That trade cost them 10 games this season.  Towers sure looks good in Arizona after fixing up their bullpen.   Padre fans should be
happy.  Cub fans should be happy with Theo.   Probably a win, win for all except Padre fans who still have Moorad.




Since: Jun 28, 2007
Posted on: October 21, 2011 8:37 pm
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

I just want to thank Jed Hoyer for staying until the job is done. Feel free to hit the bricks. Don't want a GM that doesn't want to be there.
I hear what you are saying lucasm39 and I would be upset if I were a Padres fan.  You can't knock the guy for wanting a better situation for him and his family if he has one.  Jed Hoyer is going to the 3rd biggest market in MLB.  He is going to a team the Cubs that will spend money.  Maybe not next year but for sure in the future. He is being reunited with his friend Theo Epstein and will be making more money then he is now. Now the big if.  If he can be a part of a Chicago Cubs World Series winner,  his along with all the other people involved with the Cubs will be set for life! Again, I would be mad if my teams GM did this but I also could not blame the guy either.  Look at it this way.  If you worked at a small computer manufacturer making 50,000 a year and all of a sudden IBM called and offered you a big raise and a chance to be in the spotlight in your field.  Would you take it?  I bet you would! I know I would.


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Since: Oct 21, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 8:11 pm
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Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 7:47 pm
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

Nothing good will happen until they exorcise the "Curse of The Bartman."
That funny that you make up another Curse for the Cubs, so now the Cubs suppose to be under 2 curses Bartman and the goat.



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 7:44 pm
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

Best of luck Cubbies with Theo....I'll be watching.
I think we going to need that luck, It great that the Cubs and went out and got new people for the front offices. Now we get to see what players are on the Roster when we start the season, I am hoping for players that give the Cubs a chance to win every game and also can play solid defense.



Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:53 am
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

While it's true that Moorad/Byrnes were at the helm when the D-backs won the NL West in 2007, they were also there in 2009 when they made A.J. Hinch the manager and the D-backs were the laughingstock of baseball.  Moorad and Byrnes skewered the D-backs in less than two years. Thank God for Kevin Towers and Kirk Gibson. Good luck with Byrnes, Padres--you'll really need it now.



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:49 am
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

Sounds good, having all the GM's in place, at least that is done, now can the Red Sox hire a manager and move on with business, Boston media along with others are making nothing but a joke out of this whole matter....bottom line, Red Sox season tickets holders and fans got jipped in the month of September, even the Whites Sox had 8 men out for committing fraud, I think Boston can afford to lose a few here and start fresh, (Heck, lets call it one man out (Lackey) and move on, this guy is just not fit for Boston)...Best of luck Cubbies with Theo....I'll be watching.



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:42 am
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

amen



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:19 am
 

Hoyer to join Epstein with Cubs, Byrnes new SD GM

If you want to lay blame for the September collapse at the feet of Theo, then you also need to credit him for their record setting mid-season run. You can't have it both ways.

Whether you think he's making out on this deal or deserves credit for past Red Sox success, you can't finger him for the players quitting in September. Most connected writers don't even feel that Tito should be blamed for that, even though it would fall under his job duties far more than Theo's.


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