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Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

Posted on: January 11, 2012 1:18 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:53 am

The Reds got an excellent closer on a reasonable contract when they agreed to an $8.5-million, one-year contract with ex-Phillie Ryan Madson. What did Madson get? He received the opportunity to close for a very good young team where he has the chance to rack up saves before hitting the free-agent market again next year.

Madson came close to doing a $44-million, four-year deal with the Phillies earlier this winter, as everyone knows by now. But Madson's agent Scott Boras wanted to make it clear that Madson did not reject that proposal, as has been suggested in some places on the blogosphere, and in fact informed the Phillies he was ready to sign back with the Phillies for that $44-million deal he said was proposed. "He told the Phillies he would accept it, and the Phillies decided not to execute it,'' Boras said by phone.

Phillies GM Ruben Amaro has denied that the deal fell apart because club president Dave Montgomery wouldn't approve it but declined to get into the specifics of how it blew up. Word was, the sides were discussing relatively minor items such as incentives when Amaro raised the idea of needing to go to Montgomery, though Amaro has since said that Montgomery knew all along where things stood and was not the reason the deal didn't go down. The Phillies ultimately signed Jonathan Papelbon for $50 million over four years shortly after the deal with Madson blew up.

The Phillies at some point tried to re-engage Madson about returning on a much lower deal, but after being under the impression he had a deal with his old team for $44 million Madson never re-entered serious talks with his old team.

In any case, the Reds were the beneficiary of the deal that blew up, getting the improving reliever who saved 30 of 32 chances in his first year with the bulk of the closing time. He went 4-2 with 62 strikeouts in 60 2/3 inings.

Category: MLB

Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: January 13, 2012 11:47 am

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

I don't know where you got your #'s hahaha but the Reds did not average 3.47 in ERA for their starters. Arroyo had 5.07, Volquez 5.71, Bailey 4.43, Cueto 2.31, Leake 3.86, and Latos with Padres at 3.47, who looked dreadful before the all star break, but I do like the Latos pick up.

Your lineup had 735 runs scored and was 2nd in the NL in runs scored. The Reds didn't make the playoffs because of starting pitching. And they finished 17 games behind the Brewers.

Since: Jun 21, 2009
Posted on: January 13, 2012 8:47 am

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

You get higher than amateur by writing posts longer than one sentence- IE something that shows some thought and adds insight into the discussion being held. It also helps to write complete words and spell them correctly. 

Since: Dec 4, 2009
Posted on: January 12, 2012 9:40 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

curious on what you call successful? with pitching you can't go by wins and losses (the team around them has too many variables)....a 3.47 and a WHIP of 1.18 (185 Ks vs 62 BBs) is concerded pretty successful....a rotation of Cueto, Latos, Arroyo, Leake, Bailey is better than the majority of teams out there.....not the Phils rotation, but still not shabby. So I am failing to see any logic in your statement

Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: January 12, 2012 7:15 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

Great pick up by Reds, bad move once again by Boras by not helping his client. However Madson will be closing (and before 2011 he was 48% successful when closing games) and I wouldn't say its a serious step forward because Latos had an awful year last year and their starting pitching is suspect. Love the Reds lineup though.

Since: Dec 18, 2011
Posted on: January 12, 2012 7:04 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

The Reds win on this one.  I think Madson has star potential and definently gave us a glimpse of that last season.  Phillies are probably going to regret this one.  Meanwhile the Reds just took a serious step forward in becoming a contender in the NL Central.

Since: Feb 16, 2009
Posted on: January 12, 2012 6:20 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

Sounds like the Phils front office have some communication issues & the Reds pounced all over it.  I guess the Phils would rather go with P-bon instead.  I'm a Reds fan & estatic that the Reds made this move.  It makes the Reds a better overall team after already adding Latos earlier in the off season.  Can't wait until the season gets underway.

Since: Jan 11, 2012
Posted on: January 12, 2012 4:29 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

how do  u get higher than amatur

Since: Jan 11, 2012
Posted on: January 12, 2012 4:27 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

philes need a closer

Since: Jan 12, 2012
Posted on: January 12, 2012 3:08 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

This is the major league, if teams aren't prepared to compete with big league teams they can join the miinor leagues.

Since: Aug 18, 2009
Posted on: January 12, 2012 2:37 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

Boras is slime but he only doing his Job, making sure the player he represents get the best deal possible. He have to be doing something right for he represents so many high-profile players

This doesn't sound like the best deal possible for the best or second best closer available in the free agent market this year.

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