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Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Posted on: December 21, 2011 9:15 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 9:04 pm
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The Texas Rangers routed the field in the bidding for Yu Darvish, as it turns out.

Indications are Texas' winning bid of $51.7 million was easily the highest bid. While stories have suggested that the Toronto Blue Jays bid was $50 million, meaning less than $2 million separated them and Texas, there is no evidence to support these claims.

There has been a lot of misinformation out there regarding the Darvish post (and especially as it relates to Toronto), and it's no surprise sice the posting process is secretive and the interest is extremely high. Toronto was abuzz over early erroneous reports that they won the bid.

The Blue Jays' exact bid isn't known, but word is that Texas easily won. The Yankees' bid is believed to have been somewehere in the range of $15-to-17 million but isn't exactly know, either. Reports suggested the Cubs also bid, and perhaps other teams did, too.

But no one bid like Texas. 

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Since: Nov 9, 2006
Posted on: December 25, 2011 2:28 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Use spell check next time.



Since: Apr 13, 2008
Posted on: December 23, 2011 10:16 am
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

I don't believe I was "nyah-nyah-ing" anybody, I was just "observing" the tone of the yankee fans posts below - and I disagree, it does appear that Yankee fans are already just a bit "envious", which is a synonym for jealous.  Although I do appreciate your vast knowledge of baseball (and the english language), and you're attempt to belittle me on the thoroughness of my post. Good luck in 2012 - I'm sure we'll meet again! GO RANGERS!



Since: Apr 21, 2007
Posted on: December 23, 2011 9:49 am
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Lots of Yankee fans commenting on here about over spending...You guys should be happy there is a change the Rangers could steal the title of having possibly the worst over spending on a pitcher in the history of baseball (I'll take AJ burnet for 82.5 million).  [blah-blah-blah]...As far as the yanks go, maybe it's jealousy that the tables have turned and it look like Texas is the elite team in the AL.....I don't know - You be the judge

I like to think of myself, at this point in my life, as a baseball fan first; a Yankees fan second.  That having been said, Yankees fans will be envious (not "jealous") of Texas of Texas when they win their first championship.  That is the nature of Yankees fans - our team has often won it all.  We welcome spring training each year with hopes for the same.

If you insist on focusing the "nyah-nyah" aspect of your "observations" at the Yankees, try to at least show that you know something about baseball that pre-dates 2010.  A.J Burnett, for all his inconsistencies has at least given the Yankees some meaningful wins and innings.  Try Carl Pavano and Kei Igawa, who gave the Yankees virtually nothing for the millions that went to them.  Pavano, at 40 million big ones should have been your obvious choice (again, this would require some actual knowledge of baseball before 2010).

Also before Burnett - if you can try to focus your attention beyond Yankees-bashing - how about the 136 million or so that Barry Zito was given?  I know that knowledge (and for some folks even objectivity) can be a dangerous thing; but can't you do at least a *little* better than this?




Since: Apr 13, 2008
Posted on: December 23, 2011 7:53 am
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Lots of Yankee fans commenting on here about over spending...You guys should be happy there is a change the Rangers could steal the title of having possibly the worst over spending on a pitcher in the history of baseball (I'll take AJ burnet for 82.5 million).  Now I havent seen Darvish pitch, but I trust the express in this department (I was more worried about the Beltre move last year), remember he still has yet to agree to a contract...As far as the yanks go, maybe it's jealousy that the tables have turned and it look like Texas is the elite team in the AL.....I don't know - You be the judge



Since: Jul 27, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2011 9:33 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Just a note on #2 - all international TV contracts go through MLB and are shared with all teams so Texas won't get any singular benefit because of that. They may however get some extra in-stadium advertising from Japanese advertisers though.



Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2011 4:22 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Everything truely is bigger in Texa$....including $51,700,000 bids on the next sure thing...ERR Diced-K.  Good luck with that one Nolan.  Would have been better spend on CJ keeping him from Angels.  Does Darvish have a magical pitch too like Diced-K`s "gyro ball"?
The whirling Darvish will be medicore at best and $51,700,000 + a huge contract is not a value.  Wonder what the Pirates bid  a $1.00?  



Since: Dec 27, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2011 4:00 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

The deal with Fox Southwest is $1.6 billion starting in 2015. Money is not the issue and I don't think that the front office is a problem anymore. John Daniels has satisfied me that he knows what is going on and he pays when it is needed but doesn't just throw money at people. Wilson was not the guy we needed. He wanted to be in southern California and now he is. He created nice stats and burned some innings but he didn't produce when it was needed. He was also a bit of a flake and was really self consumed. He wasn't good club house material. Darvish is not the prototypical Japanese pitcher. He has a large frame that he can grow into. He wants to work at his craft and get better and he seems to have begun the cultural transition that is so important. I don't think he is Cy Young, but I'm willing to let CJ walk and give this guy a shot.



Since: Sep 29, 2011
Posted on: December 22, 2011 2:31 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

matt...remember C.J. Wilson and that track record...0-fer in WS apperances.  The kid even has an AS loss to his credit.  Sure, I'd like to have seen him stay in Texas for the right price, but Cali is where he wanted to be and that was it.  I look forward to facing him with our hitting!

As for Yu Darvish, yep, lots of money just to talk but it's refunded if he doesn't sign.  As for signing him, Nolan knows pitchers so I'm sure the right deal will be made.  Three other things about finances: 

#1 The Rangers cashed in big time with a foxsports (southwest or plus?) TV contract somewhere around $350 mill if I remember right.  Nolan has money to operate with.

#2 Like when Chan Ho Park was in Texas, a TV contract followed from Korean networks...more money.  I actually saw Rangers games when I was stationed in S. Korea...just turn down the volume....LOL.  I'm pretty sure a Japanese network will pay for rights to televise his games.

#3  Nolan is well aware of why he was able to buy the Rangers...thanks to Tom Hicks and his overpaying of a-rod and how that back-fired....that's why Albert Pujols wasn't even really a thought for Nolan.  First base is a huge need for Texas but Nolan was going nowhere near a 10 year deal, much less $250 mil plus.  John Danials and Nolan will make a wise offer and he declines...let someone else overpay....



Since: Apr 21, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2011 1:53 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Mattgau, I echo your sentiments.

I do not like to generalize, but the line is very long indeed when it comes to pitcher imports from the Japanese League who have moderately or grossly disappointed.  Igawa is the cream of the crop here.  Hideki Irabu is another Yankee that comes to my mind.  Even "success" stories tend to be short-lived (Dice-K, even Nomo); moderate to high success for a very short period before becoming overpaid mediocrities.

Too many times I've heard the ravings about 95+ MPH heaters only to see, in actuality, that that's been a substantial exaggeration.

Texas better be careful here.  Fifty big ones just to talk to the guy, then whatever they have to cough up to sign him for x number of years.  Even though he's young, IMO anything over 3-4 years is a big roll of the dice.

Plain and simple, it's a different crop of hitters here in MLB than it is in Japan; and the overwhelming evidence is that the stress of needing to throw EVERY pitch at maximum torque just breaks down hurlers who make the jump from Japan to here.

More than just about anywhere, the phrase "let the buyer beware" applies.  We'll see....



Since: Jul 13, 2008
Posted on: December 21, 2011 11:53 pm
 

Texas won in rout on Darvish bid; Jays not close

Hopefully this is not a sign of future financial unrest for the Rangers.  We have already witnessed
a near collapse of the organization until "The Express" came in and bailed them out.  Nolan Ryan
has always been a winner as a player and as his short stint as an owner, but if this Darvish signing
turns into Kei Igawa it may be serious trouble.  CJ Wilson ended up overpaid, but who isn't?  At least
we had an MLB track record.  The questions of large contracts will be looming over the next couple of
years for the Rangers.  The team almost cast away its own version of Mr. Franchise in Micheal Young,
who in my opinion is one of the most underrated players over the past decade.  He is a keeper until
he decides to retire.  Napoli, Hamilton, Kinsler, and Andrus will continuously command big dollars, but
Kinsler is injury prone and although Hamilton is a true miracle and a great feel good story, how much
damage did the years of substance abuse really do.  He may break down completely, or play a long
productive career.  I like to see Texas competing, they are a fun group.  Questions remain... Can they
hold up?  Can they afford to tke chances???  Yu Darvish better be good because he's going to be
under the spotlight for whatever time he's here.


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