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Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

Posted on: March 1, 2012 5:30 pm
Edited on: March 1, 2012 5:31 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

Since the sample collector released a statement Wednesday about the decision that Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun won't face suspension for his positive drug test, it was only a matter of time before the Braun camp replied.

Braun wins appeal
And it has. Here is a statement released by Braun's attorney, David Cornwell:

“Ryan Braun presented a winning defense in the forum that counted. The landmark decision in Ryan's favor was based on the evidence and the plain meaning of the words in baseball’s Joint Drug Program. The collector’s attempt to re-litigate his conduct is inappropriate, and his efforts will only be persuasive to those who do not understand the evidence or the rules. Ryan Braun was properly vindicated. Both Major League Baseball and Major League Baseball Players Association should be applauded because their Joint Program worked.”

Now that everyone has said his piece, hopefully it's time to get past everything and start looking forward to the 2012 season. Braun won his appeal, he won't be suspended and that's final.

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Comments

Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 12:32 pm
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

Dude you are absoulutely crazy, first of all you accuse him of using the stuff his entire life, yet he has passed twenty five straight drug tests including four last year.  Then to be able to test at the levels that they showed he did he would have had to injected himself right after they told him he had to give a urine sample.......SO THIS MAKES NO SENSE.  If he is the big doper like you say he is where are those big muscles, where are the big homerun numbers, hell hitting ahead of Fielder and doping like you say he should be banging out 70 homeruns a year and last year he hit 33 so your logic doesnt add up.
   Could the collector have stopped at a Fedex after 5PM on a Saturday, I say yes because I live 2 minutes away from one that is open that is open until 9 PM on Saturday and it is only 20 minutes from the ballpark.  So why is the collector lieing about nothing being open within 50 miles of the ballpark on Saturday???  Just another unanswered question.
Brewerjohn,

Please show me the article where it states the only way Braun's TRT levels could only be as high as they were if he injected himself minutes before taking the test.  You show me the statement from the HPAC stating this and I will take back everything I have said and agree with you Braun was falsely accused.

Also -- taking steroids doesn't automatically turn you into a homerun hitter.  If that was the case, everyone would be taking them.  You have to have the natural abilities to go along with the added advantage of taking the steroids.  Also -- not all steroids is going to turn you into a muscle bound monster.  Is there steroids that will add bulk and weight??  Absolutely.  There is also steroids used to add lean muscle, steroids used to help recover from injury, steroids used to get rid of adipose tissues.   

If Steroid just made you a muscle bound monster -- Every player that has tested positive would be walking about looking like Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds.

In regards to the Fed Ex dropoff discussion -- the collector stated there was not a Fed Ex store within 50 miles of the stadium that would DELIVER THE URINE SAMPLES UNTIL MONDAY.  So could he have dropped off the samples??  Absolutely.  They would have sat in the Fed Ex warehouse til Monday.  THAT is why he took them home, which is the protocol he was trained to follow.  So while you say the collector is lying about Fed Ex not being open -- that isn't even what he said.  He said Fed Ex would not deliver the samples until Monday, because they were collected so late on Saturday and for that reason, he took them home.

Also -- the collector has stated, he has done 600+ collections since 2005 and numerous times he has followed the same protocol when a Fed Ex delivery couldn't be made the same day and he took them home.  Why is it, Braun's is the only sample to come back positive??  Why didn't the other two samples collected the same day as Braun not come back positive??  It is not like Braun's was the only sample collected that day -- 2 others were collected and they tested negative. 



Since: Mar 11, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 10:23 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

It is now known and accepted that using steroids does not necessarily create large muscles. different drugs or "steroids" d
o different things. 



Since: Mar 11, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 10:19 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

But if he did know about how legitimate doping tests are carried out then he would have known that the 44 hours was not, by itself, in any way a detriemntal effect upon the analytical process. In rugby and soccer (think outside of the US) there have been cases that have gone before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) that have been stored for many months, or longer, and determined to be valid for testing. 
I would think that if the arbitrator even had an inkling of that reality then he probably would not have found in favor of Braun but for sustaining the 50 game suspension. I am making a presumption here that the 44 hours was the arbitrator's main arguement to find that the process was violated and therefore Braun was "not guilty" due to that technicality. 



Since: Jan 16, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2012 10:14 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

The suspension was over-turned simply because it was ruled that proper procedure was not followed.  I equate this to a case being thrown out because a suspect was not read his Miranda rights. Does that mean he is innocent? If Braun and his lawyer believe that they are vindicated they can continue to believe that.




Since: Mar 1, 2012
Posted on: March 2, 2012 10:13 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

Dude you are absoulutely crazy, first of all you accuse him of using the stuff his entire life, yet he has passed twenty five straight drug tests including four last year.  Then to be able to test at the levels that they showed he did he would have had to injected himself right after they told him he had to give a urine sample.......SO THIS MAKES NO SENSE.  If he is the big doper like you say he is where are those big muscles, where are the big homerun numbers, hell hitting ahead of Fielder and doping like you say he should be banging out 70 homeruns a year and last year he hit 33 so your logic doesnt add up.
   Could the collector have stopped at a Fedex after 5PM on a Saturday, I say yes because I live 2 minutes away from one that is open that is open until 9 PM on Saturday and it is only 20 minutes from the ballpark.  So why is the collector lieing about nothing being open within 50 miles of the ballpark on Saturday???  Just another unanswered question.




Since: Apr 21, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 10:08 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

The court that matters?  The court that really matters is the good old Public Opinion Tribunal.  What you do when no one is looking is what defines YOU.  What is said in the dark corner of your home will be shouted from the rooftops in broad daylight.

GUILTY AS CHARGED, the jury of Public Opinion has ruled.



Since: Apr 29, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:42 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

What we have here is a failure to communicate.  Gonna let you in on the secret of the trade.

Real world logic. Braun is not only a dope fiend, but a slobbering, all-out addict who's used the stuff all his live to develop a swing that would dislocate every bone in a normal person's body, who through calibrating his cycles, masking agents, whatever was only caught becuase he thoght the testing season was over with the regular season, seeing's how the guy never sniffed post season play before.

Read the statement again. This is LAWYER logic. The fact that that Braun doped is absolute, incontrovertible proof THAT BARUN DID NOT DOPE. Why? Because Braun WAS SUSPECTED OF DOPING PRIOR TO CONVICTION.  Heck, man, the word "artificial" kinda means the stuff had to have been teleported in...either through stale piss generation, tamper proof tampering, or doping. And the normal guy is gonna kinda think it was the latter.  WRONG. Yea, he doped, BUT, you can't SUSPECT it. Else, it's called a rush to judgement, ie, innocent. Want to properly convict someone of something, can't  SUSPECT it prior to conviction. That's why it was some Pluto urbanite instead of Simpson. Best way to get suspected of something is to do it, and the more strongly SUSPECTED, the more CERTAIN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Had wheaties for breakfast thhis morning. Arey you SURE? Then no freakin way man.

Yall need us man..still be thinkin that the earth was flat.



Since: Apr 16, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:35 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

Funny, I didn't hear that Ryan Braun didn't take illegal drugs, or that he is innocent.  I only read that they found a loophole and MLB should be proud of that fact.  What an idiot.  I want to hear Ryan Braun clearly and explicitly deny the use of any illegal or banned substance whether "inadvertantly" or intentionally..............until he does so.....guilty as charged and no mealy-mouthed attorney is going to change that.



Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 8:51 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

What a statement. Don't look over there at the man in the monkey suit. He has nothing to offer, he will only confuse you!

The statement from the collector was pretty damn convincing to me. Rather than have the urine sample sit at a FedEx holding center over the weekend, he kept it in his basement until Monday morning. None of the tamper seals on either the collection samples of the boxes were tampered with. The man was a doctor, not a part-time urine guy like Braun was making him out to be. He followed temperature protocols and handled the samples like other tests he has performed in the past without any problems until now. That made Braun look very shady in my eyes.



Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2012 8:25 am
 

Braun's attorney responds to sample collector

We don't know about other players because their suspensions are not announced till after the appeals process. So if someone has a positive test and appeals then wins their appeal, the public is not supposed to know. And that is for this very reason. People are crucifying him and assuming he is guilty. I don't know whether he did it or not. And anyone else who pretends they know for sure is just a presumptive dumba$$ who wants to lob bombs on here or hates the Brewers or Ryan Braun in general.
Maybe he did it to heal faster from injury, that is entirely possible. But for people to assume he juiced for a spike in his numbers is just being intellectually dishonest or lazy. His numbers have been almost identical his entire career. He has had no performance spikes like Brady Anderson. So that is the dumbest comparison ever. If his numbers drop this year it will be because he no longer had Prince Fielder in the lineup protecting him or because he put too much pressure on himself to prove the haters wrong.
I expect him to put up numbers very similar to what he has in the past with maybe a slight dip. I am not a Brewers fan or a Ryan Braun apologist, but I try to be fair and I will just say straight out, I don't know and neither does anyone else posting on here whether he really did it or not.


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