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Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

Posted on: January 24, 2012 7:52 am
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By Matt Snyder


One position we haven't yet covered in this series to this point is the man behind the plate. And when I thought about catchers, I believe I found just about the perfect duo to provide an incredibly tough choice.

Indians catcher Carlos Santana is just 25 and already one of the most important members of the up-and-coming Tribe. Giants catcher Buster Posey is only 24 and easily one of the most irreplaceable parts of the Giants. You could call them stars now or future superstars. And both have already gone through a major leg injury.

Let's break it down.

The case for Santana

The tools are there to become one of the best young run producers in the game. Santana hit just .239 last season, but he walked enough to put up a .351 on-base percentage, which is a much more important stat. He also slugged 27 homers and 35 doubles. Also note that a torn ACL ended his rookie season prematurely, so Santana is likely looking at big step forward in 2012. With the lineup around him comprised mostly of young players with good potential, expect Santana to push his runs and RBI up around triple digits (he had 79 RBI and 84 runs last season).

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A slight plus here for Santana is that while both of these catchers has already suffered a major injury, we've already seen how Santana came back. Posey is still recovering.

The case for Posey

He opened the 2010 season in Triple-A. By the end of it, young Buster Posey was catching the final strike of the World Series and rushing into Brian Wilson's arms to celebrate. In between, Posey hit .305/.357/.505 with 18 homers, 23 doubles and 67 RBI in just 108 regular-season games. This was good enough to win the 2010 NL Rookie of the Year. Posey also hit the ball well during the postseason, putting up a .744 OPS.

Also, Santana is a pretty bad defensive catcher and while Posey isn't great, he's not bad. He works well with the staff and has thrown out 37 percent of would-be basestealers so far in his young career. Santana has thrown out 28 percent, which isn't awful, but most metrics aren't kind to him and the Indians have toyed with moving him to first base permanently. Even if we wanted to argue some of these points -- like that Posey has played first base at times, too -- there isn't much question Posey is a better defensive catcher.

Now, we said above that Posey still hasn't proven he will again be the player he was prior to the broken leg. It's possible there are no setbacks and he returns to the Posey of old, but there are no guarantees. Just ask Kendrys Morales. So far, so good, however, as all reports from Posey's camp suggest he's making good progress.

Our call

Man, flip a coin. I hate going on the injury thing, because the smart money is on a full Posey recovery. So we'll just assume he comes all the way back -- meaning both of these young catchers star for the foreseeable future. If Santana goes the way of former catcher Victor Martinez (1B or DH), his bat means that much less to the lineup, while Posey can nearly match his offensive production from behind the plate. If Santana stays behind the plate, he hurts the team defensively. If both were moved, though, Santana would be the pick because I feel like he has a slight bit more offensive upside. If Posey suffers any setbacks, Santana would be the obvious pick. So this is razor thin, but my choice is Posey in an absolute photo finish. Hey, as I've said before, I enjoy gambling.

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Since: Mar 28, 2007
Posted on: January 26, 2012 9:28 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

There are two positions where defense outweighs offense. SS and Catcher. Posey is so much the better defensive player that it more than gaps the slight edge Santana has in offense. In Fantasy, this might be a close call, but if the discussion is for a real team, Posey is by far the better choice. 



Since: Nov 22, 2006
Posted on: January 26, 2012 2:57 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

Don't kid yourselves, Buster Posey is one of the best ballplayers of his generation, at any position.





Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: January 26, 2012 4:46 am
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

POSEY all the way. 5 tool catcher.

SANTANA has not handled a pitching staff the way POSEY did on the trip to the world series. He has not even caught half the talent that POSEY has. POSEY can call a game better than SANTANA. Only time will tell. POSEY has alot more of a game to call in the National League. Situational play , bunting , more pinch hitters. POSEYs responsibility and VOID if he is injured is more damaging to his team than if SANTANA was hurt for his team.
I cannot stand the GIANTS either but respect what they put together in winning the Series. 





Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: January 26, 2012 4:46 am
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

POSEY all the way. 5 tool catcher.

SANTANA has not handled a pitching staff the way POSEY did on the trip to the world series. He has not even caught half the talent that POSEY has. POSEY can call a game better than SANTANA. Only time will tell. POSEY has alot more of a game to call in the National League. Situational play , bunting , more pinch hitters. POSEYs responsibility and VOID if he is injured is more damaging to his team than if SANTANA was hurt for his team.
I cannot stand the GIANTS either but respect what they put together in winning the Series. 


      
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Since: Nov 30, 2010
Posted on: January 26, 2012 12:32 am
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

Come on man, Santana .



Since: Apr 20, 2007
Posted on: January 25, 2012 11:30 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

Carlos Santana will never, ever hit .239 again, the dude can hit.  His numbers would have been better if Shin-Soo Choo had been healthy all season long, and hopefully this season he will, and you'll see every single bit of the numbers go up.  He also can improve on his catching, he's only done it for a few seasons, and now he has a full season under his belt of MLB.  Posey hasn't yet, but he will, so that's not the case.  I'll say this, both of them are the next wave of Catchers in Baseball, and I'd take either one on my team.



Since: Dec 5, 2007
Posted on: January 25, 2012 8:44 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

i'll take posey. he has that sweet swing so he will hit near .300 every season. also he's a better catcher. he plays at pac bell park so he doesn't have the HR numbers but trust me this kid has a lot of power to right center field and can easily reach 30 HRs if he played seomwhere else.



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: January 25, 2012 7:57 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

Its Santana not even close !



Since: Dec 29, 2011
Posted on: January 25, 2012 6:41 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

If Santana stays behind the plate, he hurts the team defensively.
There's your answer right there. I place as much emphasis and importance on defense as I do offense to win championships. A catcher calls a game and thus essentially handles a pitcher. His job is to know a hiters' strength and weakness, to know the defense around him, to know who's on base and to make a call based on every single scenario. Now, I am aware that a young catcher is receiving calls from the dugout, but there are many situations in which he has to act himself. Oh, I forgot about throwing out would be basestealers. POSEY!!



Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: January 25, 2012 6:12 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Santana or Posey?

i have yet to join a draft where posey went later than round 7.  that is way way late. 



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