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Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

Posted on: January 19, 2012 11:44 pm
 
Ryan Braun

By C. Trent Rosecrans


On Thursday, a three-person panel heard Ryan Braun's appeal of a 50-game suspension stemming from a positive test for raised levels of testosterone, CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman has confirmed.

The three members of the panel were MLB Players Association executive director Michael Weiner, MLB executive vice president for labor relations Rob Manfred and independent arbitrator Shyam Das, according to the New York Daily News, which first reported the story.

Braun is expected to make a short speech when he accepts his 2011 National League Most Valuable Player Award at Saturday's Baseball Writers' Association of America dinner in New York.

Braun's representatives have repeatedly denied allegations that the Brewers outfielder took performance-enhancing drugs.

According to Heyman, no major league player has successfully appealed a positive drug test.

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Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 24, 2012 11:52 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

So, syeely, there is no more reason for you to repeat your position (which you have made quite clear before) because nothing that can happen going forward can change it.

If Braun wins his appeal there should be no announcement from MLB because of the confidentiality requirements of the drug policy. So, anything said about it will have to come from Braun or the Brewers, and if they say that the appeal found that the test was flawed, you won't believe it anyway. 

Personally, I think that being 100% certain of something based only on incomplete and unsubstantiated facts coming from anonymous sources is evidence of a closed mind. But, I guess if you can find a convicted felon to back up that conclusion that should be good enough.   



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: January 24, 2012 10:00 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

Just a quick note that the only way I might not think Ryan Braun is a cheater, is if it is shown that the failed drug test was due to a fault of the testing site. There is no other way he is innocent, in my eye. Even if he does win his appeal, I will think he cheated.

I read an interview Victor Conte did about this on the radio. I'm not sure I am allowed to give the link, but you can Google Ryan Braun Conte and find it. But in reading stuff like this, I become more and more convinced Ryan Braun is a cheater. I am 100% certain he is.




Since: Feb 22, 2007
Posted on: January 24, 2012 1:02 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

Eveyone is entitled to his or her opinion.  The fact that some posters think their opinion of Braun will ruin his reputation is laughable.  I doubt Braun cares about the opinions on this blog or any thread for that matter. 



Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 3:46 pm
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

I wanted to say in my previous message that I recognize that the source "involved in the process" could be someone from Braun's camp or the players union who is making a preemptive strike to prepare for a bad result. But, the fact that we don't know is just another example of why it is better to wait for the result than jump to conclusions based on leaked information (which all of this is).



Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 3:35 pm
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

Dan Patrick said on his radio show this morning, citing somebody "involved in the process", that Ryan Braun may be exonerated. If you want to see a more complete description of his comments, they should be easy enough to find through an Internet search. But one of the key quotes is:

"Ryan Braun may be exonerated here. He may be innocent. And judging from all of the information I was told, he should be. It's not as cut and dried as people think. And Ryan Braun may be an innocent man. " 

The report also said that the popular reports that the test was caused by something Braun took for a personal medical issue  are not true.

I'm sure that this report will be of no interest to the people who have already lined up the executioner. But, for those of us who have been waiting for the process to play out before we jump to conclusions, this does give us something to think about.


  



Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:24 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

syeely, your opinion is fine and articulately stated. I might even agree with much of it once the result of the appeal is announced.

But, why is it necessary to reach these opinions before all of the facts that we're going to get are out? There are a lot of possible explanations for the positive drug test (some more plausible than others), and a lot of different public statements Braun could make once the results are public. Why get yourself all worked up until we see what happens; that information shuld be coming any day. What if the arbitration panel determines after a thorough review that there was some mishandling of Braun's specimen, or at least enough of a doubt about it to disregard it? As unlikely as that may be, why not wait until it has been completely eliminated as a possibility?

Once the result is announced, Braun could also admit that he made a serious mistake, whether it be taking a PED intentionally or not going through ideal procedures to ensure what he took wouldn't cause a problem. If he does that I will evaluate what he says, but I won't criticize him for not saying something sooner. As I said before, why should he compromise or frofeit his right to appeal through public statements? 



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:07 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

I admit to being the most vocal member in this board, in regards to Braun being a cheater. I would like to post once more my reasoning behind my feelings.

Ryan Braun is 28 years old and been in the league 5 years. He is a tremendous athlete, I won’t deny that. As I said elsewhere, I was a fan of his because he worked so hard at improving his one flaw, at defense. He didn’t have to do that, but I admire the player for wanting to improve his all around game.

May I add that I have not suggested Braun give back his MVP award. The MVP award is given by the BBWAA and has nothing to do with MLB’s drug policy. Nor have I said that Braun needs to come out and tell the world what he did (even though he said that about ARod). He doesn’t have to say a word; now I do think he should, but I am not saying he has to. Nor have I suggested he took PEDs.

What most of you readers are missing, and need to get, is that baseball players such as Braun are not like you and me. They are well-oiled machines, they take care of their bodies. They watch everything they eat. They don’t put anything into or onto their bodies unless they know exactly what it is, and what it can do. They do not go to Walgreen’s and grab something off the shelf to help them with a headache. They know exactly what they are taking, as far as medicine goes. They are walking drug encyclopedias.

Ryan Braun failed a drug test. In doing so, he breached the drug policy that MLBPA endorsed. He is not a 19 year old rookie who maybe didn’t know the policy so well. He is not some bum off the street. He is a superb athlete, who is aware of what he takes, who is aware of the policy, who is aware of the hotline to call if unsure about a drug. He is also aware that the burden of proof is on him, in the appeal process.

I can’t see for any other reason that his testosterone level would be so elevated, except that he took a banned substance. I just can’t see otherwise. And I just can’t see that it would simply slip his mind to not tell anyone about what he took.

Now some here have suggested that Braun is taking a substance he has to have, to treat herpes for instance. Again I do not buy it; there are many substitutes one can be prescribed for to treat herpes that would be OK with baseball. He doesn’t have to take one that raises his testosterone level to a dangerous point, if in fact he did.

In my opinion I think Braun did take a substance perhaps for treating herpes or a similar condition. It raised his testosterone level, as he knew it would. Sorry to say I think many players probably do the same thing.

I can only come to the conclusion that Ryan Braun was trying to cheat the system. That makes him a cheater. If my opinion ruins his reputation, too bad. He will still make millions. He still has family and friends and fans who believe in him. He’ll sit out his 50 games and go back to work. He just won’t be taking whatever it was he took anymore. Or will he?




Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:14 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

my instance was if your dying son was in the car, not going to see him.....if your action would have saved your sons life...like taking a steroid to rid your body of a disease that could harm your well being like Brauns Case....he shouldn't have to tell ANYONE he is taking a drug to treat a Medical Disease...that violates his right of Privacy period.




Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 7:41 am
 

Ryan Braun's appeal heard by MLB

The reason the leak is relevant is that it has caused many in the public to form their conclusions while Braun was effectively precluded from telling his side of the story.

A lot of people who have concluded that he is a cheater based on the leaked report are also saying he is a liar because he has proclaimed his innocence pending his appeal. But, what was he supposed to do? Forfeit his right to appeal by admitting that he made a mistake just because the report was leaked prematurely? Wouldn't refusing to accept the MVP award be taken as a sign of guilt? The people who say that they would have respected him more if he had done that are the ones who are lying, or at least kidding themselves.

Will you still think the leak is irrelevant if Braun's appeal is upheld? In that case, nobody should have known that the positive test ever took place, but instead Braun's reputation will be tarnished forever, regardless of what the truth is. Many, if not most, of the people who have rushed to brand Braun as a cheater and a liar are not going to change their opinions simply because his appeal is upheld. They will just think he is a liar and a cheater who evaded justice through a technicality. The most vocal poster on this board has stated explicity that he will feel that way. Do you think that's fair?

Fundamental fairness dictates that we withhold our judgment until the whole story comes out. But, there are a lot of people who cannot or will not do that.




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Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 12:31 am
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