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Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

Posted on: January 10, 2012 10:58 pm
Edited on: January 11, 2012 1:43 pm
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By Matt Snyder


Free agent closer Ryan Madson has agreed to sign a one-year, $8.5 million deal with the Cincinnati Reds, CBSSports.com insider Jon Heyman has learned.

Madson, 31, was reportedly very close to signing a four-year deal worth over $40 million to stay in Philadelphia a few months ago and the deal apparently fell through, with the Phillies instead landing Jonathan Papelbon. Since then, the market for closers completely eroded to the point where a team like the Reds -- who didn't have much money at all to spend in free agency this season -- were able to jump into the bidding late and grab what appears to be a huge bargain.

Madson to Reds
Madson successfully converted 32 of his 34 save attempts in 2011 for the Phillies with a 2.37 ERA, 1.15 WHIP and 62 strikeouts in 60 2/3 innings.

He most certainly moves into the closer role for the Reds, who will now allow free agent Francisco Cordero to walk via free agency. Newly-acquired left-hander Sean Marshall will serve as a setup man, along with Bill Bray and Nick Masset. The plan with hard-throwing Aroldis Chapman is reportedly to convert him into a starter. Still, with Marshall and Madson being added, the Reds appear to have a strong back-end.

The fallout for two free agent pitchers is very evident here. First of all, as alluded to above, Cordero is now not going to remain in Cincinnati, so he'll have to look elsewhere. Also, the Reds had been connected to Kerry Wood in rumors this week, but that is no longer an option. So Wood is down to the Phillies and Cubs, using past reports as a guide.

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Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: January 15, 2012 9:54 pm
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

@lfsportsnut --- you state "Now she (Mrs. Madson) can go to Cinncinati Ohio. One of the most nothing to do towns compared to Philly or should I say South Jersey or stay in California where people don't give a crap about anything (Im not saying anything bad about Cinncinati Guys)" and "He could of went to arbitration with the Phillies and got at least 13-15 million for this year and have a shot at the World Series. Now he has none." 

Your comments are so typical and condescending that frankly it's getting boring replying to Philly fans.  #1 I am well aware that many people think that the world virtually ends once off the I-95 corridor.  #2 it's spelled CINCINNATI and not Cinncinati, although I am sure such details are meaningless to you.  #3 I seriously doubt you have ever been to Cincinnati or if you had, already had your mind closed to exploring it.  Having lived in both California and Cincinnati as well as having visited Philadelphia many times over the last 30 years, it never ceases to amaze me at how unknowingly disrepectful and arrogant many are in Philly concerning anything outside of that area.       

I understand you feel entitled to a championship because your team can afford to buy talented players and spend 2 times what most NL teams do.&nb
sp; Your team has merely become the NL version of the Yankees, and I am sure it's very embarrassing when "nothing to do towns" such as Cincinnati or St. Louis (in baseball), or Green Bay or Indianapolis (in football) shock your mind by winning championships.   

I have a hunch Ryan Madson and his wife might be happy in Cincinnati, and hope that he will sign an extension.  He has the stuff and the atitude and the motivation to be one of the best closers in baseball for the next 5 years.  As far as Madson having NO shot at a WS now that he has left Philly, well .... time will tell.  Maybe you should do a bit of research and compare the Reds and Phillies baseball tradition and history.      
      



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2012 8:42 am
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

I love hearing from disgruntled Philly fans when things don't go their way.  The Phils front office had a comminication breakdown & the Reds jumped all over it.  The Phils wanted P-bon instead & it cost them Madson.  The Reds have made some good off season pitching moves (Latos, Marshall, & Madson).  This should sure up the staff & hopefully a successful 2012 season.  Just a reminder that there's no crying in baseball & go Reds!

VSMACK44, your post is so silly.  Signing Papelbon did not cost us Madson.  The Phillies management CHOSE Papelbon over Madson.  It cost Madson.  Now, I don't know that one is better than the other, but one has a longer track record than the other and he got paid for it.  I personally think it was too much and that Amaro made a mistake by not waiting it out and seeing what the market bore.  I don't think closers are worth $12.5 mil per year....I don't think that they are worth $8.5 mil a year.  They are too up and down (with Rivera being the exception).  The Phillies may have already had a good closer in Bastardo....he did a decent enough job when Madson was injured.  Is he proven?  Neither was Kimbrel or Papelbon when they took over...heck, neither was Adam Wainright when he did it in the WS.  So I think it was a mistake.  The Reds were fortunate, but they did not "jump all over it"...Papelbon's signing was over 2 months ago.  Madson fell to them. 

As a Phillies fan I hope it turns out well for them.  As a Madson fan, I hope he succeeds.  But you are way off base here.



Since: Nov 10, 2008
Posted on: January 12, 2012 7:50 pm
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

I agree that Dusty Baker is not a great manager.  He handled pitching staffs horribly in SF and Chicago so why are you surprised he can't manage now?  Barry Bonds made him look good for years by overcoming is questionable management of the game.  Don't be fooled, he has been a poor strategists for a long time.



Since: Feb 16, 2009
Posted on: January 12, 2012 6:31 pm
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

I love hearing from disgruntled Philly fans when things don't go their way.  The Phils front office had a comminication breakdown & the Reds jumped all over it.  The Phils wanted P-bon instead & it cost them Madson.  The Reds have made some good off season pitching moves (Latos, Marshall, & Madson).  This should sure up the staff & hopefully a successful 2012 season.  Just a reminder that there's no crying in baseball & go Reds!



Since: Jul 30, 2007
Posted on: January 12, 2012 12:35 pm
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

Like the booing her husbands get doesnt help in her decision to hate the fans?

Here’s what Sarah Madson said about Phillies fans,

 “I
hate the fans. It is bad enough that they bother us during the season, but they
will not leave us alone in December when we go out to eat. We stayed here during
the off season last year, but we will be going to California this year. There
must be something particularly bad about Phillies fans because all the players
leave in the off season.”

This is from an article from the writer!

Oh really, Sarah? Ryan Madson might hear a couple boos the next time he takes
the mound in Philly. You’re lucky you don’t play, you would get booed right out
of town. Go to ****ing California. Because in California, you’re right, they
won’t bother you. You know why? Because they don’t love their athletes like we
do in Philly. They don’t have passionate and die hard fans in California, or any
city, like we have in Philadelphia.

So when we win the World Series in October, please Sarah Madson, please go to
California. Just get the **** out of here. Don’t smile, don’t celebrate, and
definitely do NOT interact with any of the terrible and awful Phillies fans. We
are sorry that your husband is someone that we admire and someone that we are
proud to have represent our city on the baseball diamond.

Then she retorts what she said saying it ws taken out of context!

Sarah did not consent to an interview, but rather was approached by Ms.
Goldman who did not identify herself as a reporter. She began to ask many
personal questions about the life of a wife of a professional baseball player.
The comments reported by Ms. Goldman were taken completely out of context, and
as a result, Sarah is extremely upset and feels violated by the situation.

Sarah says, “For every one fan that may upset us, there are 99 Phillies fans
that we love. We have lived here for years, have many friends, neighbors and
acquaintances — who also happen to be Phillies fans — for whom we have the
utmost respect.”

The Madsons would like to dispel this misleading information which indicates
that they have anything but admiration for the fans in Philadelphia

What, we can’t say hello to him at a restaurant?

Ps. Ryan can do a lot better. Just saying. LOL


OK what did I say that was so wrong? GROW A PAIR? As in grow a pair of nuts! You can't say one thing and then say it was taken out of context period . Own up to the fact that she hates us while shes sitting pretty in a big house while most of us are struggling to make it paycheck to paycheck. Trying to buy food for my 3 kids. If I was making that kind of money, I wouldn't care if people bothered me. Now she can go to Cinncinati Ohio. One of the most nothing to do towns compared to Philly or should I say South  Jersey or stay in California where people don't give a crap about anything (Im not saying anything bad about Cinncinati Guys)


I can only wish my 2 sons grow up to be Major League Baseball players knowing I taught them how to treat people in this world and not be Primadonnas (Sp?) Not trying to piss you off just stating how I feel. I loved Ryan Madsen while he pitched for the Phillies. Too bad his agent is as clueless as Mrs. Madsen. He could of went to arbitration with the Phillies and got at least 13-15 million for this year and have a shot at the World Series. Now he has none. Plus if he gets hurt. His salary will be way down the year after. You can forget about a big contract. As all us Phillies fans know he has great stuff and is very capable of being a  great closer for the next 5-6 years. Just baffled on why he listened to that dope of an agent! Go Phillies Spring training is like 6 weeks away. Woot Woot!





Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 12, 2012 11:26 am
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

I was thrilled when Dusty Baker was hired to manage the Reds, because of his 3 NL Manager of the year awards, and thought the Reds underperformance prior to Dusty was in large part due to no-name managers that drew no respect by players like Griffey and Dunn.

I was wrong on several accounts.

Dunn, Griffey, Encarnacion and Volquez were players that couldn't be motivated beyond the infrequent effort they gave, regardless of the manager. Thankfully, they aren't Reds anymore. The Reds haven't rid themselves of all personnel that don't have a sense of urgency, and dedication to work ethic detail and sound fundamantals, however. Dusty Baker and much of his dugout staff are a MOST of those that remain.

I haven't formed my current opinion of Dusty because of his color or his previous awards (that I'm now convinced were only a result of those teams winning in SPITE of Dusty's failings). My dissatisfaction with him is a result of watching Dusty manage every game since he's been with the Reds.

Dusty can't be blamed for the Reds roster limitations, but he should be blamed for being routinely under-prepared, ignoring sound fundamentals, and wasting obvious opportunities. He can't or won't adapt to his roster, forcing players into roles outside their skill set, and is demotivational to better talent young players because of his persistent bias toward underperforming veterans. Dusty doesn't learn from or correct his mistakes, he stubbornly repeats them, so making flawed young players better is out of the question. Dusty unneccessarily stresses his bullpen by using 4 of them in most games regardless of the situation, and often asks his closer to pitch in non save situations 2 consectutive games, and then expects them to close on the 3rd day too.  Dusty is the absolute Lord of LOB due to his predictably flawed methods, and refusal to attempt to advance runners between homers and 2 out hits. He reinforces this mandate occasionally
 by manufacturing long odds outs with forced steal attempts in pitch out counts and giving rare bunt signals to players in games without ever preparing them to execute one. 

The facts are, Dusty Baker is a one trick pony. He has never won, or shown any inclination to do what it takes to win, without elite numbers of homeruns. Any other tools given to Dusty are largely mis-used or ignored. I appreciate the Reds recent efforts to improve the team's pitching and defense, but I remain skeptical those are tools Dusty can or will make use adequate of, especially with a team of young talent that need a manager who can manage something other than a 4 homer rally.    

  



Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: January 12, 2012 10:27 am
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

As a lifelong Reds fan, I am overly excited about the additions of Latos, Marshall, and Madson.  Sure I have my doubts about how they will shape up playing in our small park, but these are the types of moves I've wanted Jocketty to make.

Although I am verrrrry nervous about Chappie as a starter, as I am afraid it will fry him.  With his jerky mechanics, it is hard enough to keep him healthy coming out of the bullpen.

Enough with the negatives, I am all for Dusty Dozen and the new acquisitions.  Let's go REDLEGS!!!



Since: May 12, 2011
Posted on: January 12, 2012 8:33 am
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

Being a lifelong Mets fan, I have little to root for anymore. I loved going to dodger games while I lived in LA, now you couldn't pay me to go there. The Mariners simply bore me, and springtime is coming. I think I will root for the Reds. I agree that Dusty is a poor choise for a manger, but then I think of Ozzie and say he is not so bad. I like the way the Reds are building this team, fun to watch and ready to win. Madson is good and there seems to be plenty of room in the bandwagon, count me in. Go Reds!



Since: Jul 29, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 10:36 pm
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

Hey RAMSFAN 19731, how can you say you are a Reds fan and not know who played for us or was on the bench? I have been a Reds fan for 42 years and I know who played for us. Have you ever heard of Joey Votto, Jay Bruce or Brandon Phillips?  



Since: Nov 12, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:29 pm
 

Reds to sign Madson to one-year contract

I agree, if he can produce the same numbers next year, this will turn out to be a great deal for the Reds!


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