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Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

Posted on: January 6, 2012 2:11 pm
Edited on: January 6, 2012 3:54 pm
 


By Matt Snyder


The Cubs have traded highly-touted pitcher Andrew Cashner along with outfielder Kyung-Min Na to the Padres for highly-touted first baseman Anthony Rizzo and pitcher Zach Cates, the clubs announced Friday.

This deal is very notable for two particular reasons. First of all, it's a continuation of both teams' complete offseason makeovers under new leadership. That is especially interesting in this particular trade, because the Padres have a new general manager specifically because the Cubs do. Once Theo Epstein took over as Cubs team president, he hired Padres GM Jed Hoyer to be the new Cubs GM.

The second interesting part of this trade is that both (main) players are guys who have been ranked as top 100 prospects in baseball and haven't yet had long enough stints in the majors to see what they're capable of in the long term.

Cubs, Padres offseason trades
Rizzo, 22, was the major piece in the trade that sent Adrian Gonzalez to Boston, but new Padres' general manager Josh Byrnes seemed ready to move on from Rizzo after acquiring Yonder Alonso from the Reds in the Mat Latos trade.

“The acquisition of Yonder Alonso provided us the flexibility to make this trade and acquire a quality, young power arm in Andrew Cashner,” said Byrnes in a release. “We are happy to add a pitcher with the pedigree of Cashner and an outfielder with the athleticism of Na.”

Cashner, 25, was the Cubs' first-round pick in 2008. He's a hard-throwing right-hander. He won the Cubs' fifth starter job out of spring training last season, but injured his rotator cuff during his first start of the season and was unable to come back until September. On the season he had a 1.69 ERA and 0.66 WHIP with eight strikeouts in 10 2/3 innings. It's worth noting that he's moving to Petco Park, one of the most pitcher-friendly parks in the majors.

But questions remain. Can he really be a starter, or just a one-inning reliever? His rotator cuff issue last year worried some. And on a conference call Friday afternoon, Byrnes said Cashner will be a reliever in 2012. Perhaps an eighth-inning setup man for Huston Street, but Byrnes said he's not ready to anoint Cashner with that role just yet.

Rizzo hit .331/.404/.652 with 26 homers and 101 RBI in 93 Triple-A games last season, but struggled mightily in his 153 major-league plate appearances (.141/.281/.242). He certainly benefits from moving out of Petco Park and into Wrigley Field, of course. It's extremely unlikely the Cubs would trade Cashner for Rizzo and still make a run at Prince Fielder, so those rumors need to die now. As for any Bryan LaHair fans, we have good news. Hoyer said on a conference call that Rizzo will open the season in Triple-A and LaHair will be the first baseman on opening day.

As with Cashner, Rizzo has questions as well. Is his swing too long to be a star in the majors? What did Byrnes and other Padres' front-office people see that made them want to pounce on Alonso and deal Rizzo so quickly?

Still, for now at least, this deal seems to make a good deal of sense for two ballclubs trying to completely alter the franchise.

The other two players involved appear to be throw-ins. Cates, 22, was 4-10 with a 4.73 ERA and 1.36 WHIP last season in Class A. Na, 20, hit .268/.358/.312 with 20 stolen bases in 83 games across four levels last season -- with most of his time spent between Rookie Ball and Class A.

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Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: January 9, 2012 2:40 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

This was an idiotic trade from the Cubs perspective unless they know something about Cashner that they are not letting out.  Rizzo is a triple A stud who can't hit in the majors and Cashner, if healthy, has a top starter or great relievers arm.  For a team that is going to be hurting for quality starting pitching, this move is confusing.  After years of Hendry trying to buy a championship with has been players, I like the youth movement and all, but it just doesn't make sense to trade away your best young arm for a guy who has proven he can't hit in the pros...no matter how young he is.

The haul the Padres got for Latos was pretty impressive.  Maybe the Cubs went after the wrong GM? 



DEX_MORGAN
Since: Dec 14, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 2:09 pm
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Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:13 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

The new Padre GM was smart to dump Rizzo. Only Jed Hoyer was fooled by his minor league stats. The one pitch he can't hit is a major league fastball. Any other type of pitch you can learn to hit. If you only have a slider speed bat, they will get you out 9 out of 10 times in the big leagues. Hopefully Hoyer will raid the Padres of some of the terrible #1 picks that he made during his short time in San Diego. The sooner the stench of Hoyer is gone the sooner the team will progress.




Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 5:34 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

More inter team trading that have relationships with the GM`s. Theo may worship Hoyer & Rizzo, but giving away a top pitching prospect just isn`t a good move. I hope the Padres get the better of this one & any other dealings with the Cubs. Rizzo wasn`t going to make the Pads lineup, so this works for them.



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 12:09 am
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

As a Cubs fan...I really hate to part with Cashner, but I am still very excited about this trade and the other moves the new front office has been making. I also worry with Cashner that the arm problems that he had last year could be a reocurring problem. I can understand the Cubs may not compete for the Central title the next two years, but it will just be nice to hopefully see a likeable team on the field. It has been tough to root for a team with the likes of Zambrano, Miton Bradley several years ago, and Soriano of the field. I don't care if Jed & Theo trade Soriano for a bag of batting practice balls and have to pay the remaining $54 mill on his contract, as long as he is gone. He is a tremendously flawed player.
Cashner played good for the few games he was in, but I was also concern that he will have arm problem for years to come.

This Rizzo trade also say an lot about the future plans , now I have doubt that they would even try to sign Fielder.  I don't think that the Cubs would trade for a 1B they really like and believe could be in the majors by 2013, just to sign Fielder to a 5 to 10 year deal. I do think that the Cubs should sign a 1B for a year deal, or till Rizzo ready to come up to major league level. If they want to be cheap try moving Soriano to 1B if they can't trade him, he can't do any worse then playing LF.



Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: January 7, 2012 5:30 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

How can anyone not like this trade from the Padres perspective?  First the get max value for Latos, a guy who had his stats deflated by Petco and will be at best average.  In that trade they land a top hitting prospect who has proven he can hit at the major league level and plays 1b.  Then they unload a hitter who they no longer have a spot for with a huge hole in his swing for a top pitching prospect.  So for those of you following along at home they got a front line starter with great stuff, a projected 300+ hitter with power at 1b, and a top pitching prospect for a guy who was greatly assisted by Petco and a hacker.  Funny that GMs around the league are saying what a great job the Padres did, but their "fans" dont recognize it.



Since: Jan 4, 2012
Posted on: January 7, 2012 5:15 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

As a Cubs fan...I really hate to part with Cashner, but I am still very excited about this trade and the other moves the new front office has been making. I also worry with Cashner that the arm problems that he had last year could be a reocurring problem. I can understand the Cubs may not compete for the Central title the next two years, but it will just be nice to hopefully see a likeable team on the field. It has been tough to root for a team with the likes of Zambrano, Miton Bradley several years ago, and Soriano of the field. I don't care if Jed & Theo trade Soriano for a bag of batting practice balls and have to pay the remaining $54 mill on his contract, as long as he is gone. He is a tremendously flawed player.



Since: Jul 29, 2011
Posted on: January 7, 2012 5:06 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

XBOMB,

Theo is just getting a former RedSox prospect back under his control.  When Rizzo (gotta like the name!)  was in the Sox system I thought there was just to much hype about him.  I thought he was a decent player but Epstein spoke very, very highly of him.  I agree with you!  They could have made a bigger trade to help them next season!  But, Epsteib is probably looking 2-3 years down the road for The Cubs to be good again!


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Since: Dec 14, 2011
Posted on: January 7, 2012 4:40 pm
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Since: Mar 17, 2010
Posted on: January 7, 2012 3:00 pm
 

Cubs, Padres exchange Cashner, Rizzo

What basis do you have to support your claim that Rizzo is awful in the field? He actually is projected to be an above average defender.


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