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Beane expects A's to make more deals

Posted on: December 23, 2011 10:30 pm
Billy BeaneBy C. Trent Rosecrans

Billy Beane's Oakland swap meet is open and ready for business -- just don't show up on Christmas Day.

"We won't do [any moves] on Christmas, as a matter of principle," Beane said Friday night on a conference call after making the Gio Gonzalez trade official. "We're still having conversations and I anticipate on having conversations [Saturday]."

The team sent Gonzalez to Washington for a package that included left-hander Tom Milone, right-handers A.J. Cole and Brad Peacock, along with catcher Derek Norris. Oakland also send right-hander Rob Gilliam to the Nationals, as part of the deal agreed upon Thursday and finalized Friday. It wasn't the team's first deal, sending Trevor Cahill to Arizona earlier this month, and it's unlikely to be the last.

"We're trying to collect as many young players as we can," Beane said. "I think that's our best long-term strategy."

Beane made no bones that Oakland would have a hard time competing with the Rangers or Angels this season, or really in the next couple of seasons. The A's, instead, are building for the future and know times will be difficult in the next couple of years.

"We've been through this cycle numerous times and it gets shorter and shorter because the gap between us and everyone else grows and grows. For us to compete, we need a new stadium," Beane said. "I don't think there was a move we could make to compete with the Angels and Texas in the moves they're making. They're going to be somewhere around $150 million payroll. We're not a business that can put that payroll on the field. For us to catch up to Seattle we'd have to spend an extra $40 or $50 million. From our standpoint, I don't know that there's a move we could make to compete with them this year."

While Beane said he hopes to hear soon about a new stadium, the team will continue to build for an opening of a new stadium a couple of years down the line and would like to follow the model set forth by the early-to-mid-'90s Indians, who had a core group ready in the big leagues when they opened Jacobs Field.

"That's the blueprint, the template," Beane said. "They went through some pain there. That was when I had just quit playing and was scouting. They had the guts to do it right and they did it best."

As for closer Andrew Bailey, Beane wouldn't discuss individuals, but made it clear he's open to trading just about anyone on the roster, and Bailey would be an obvious candidate.

"We're still going to be very open-minded," Beane said. "The fact of the matter is, we're putting together the team with the idea that we're going to get a new stadium. We don't have any other choice."

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Since: Dec 27, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 10:45 am
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Since: Nov 30, 2009
Posted on: December 27, 2011 2:32 am

Beane expects A's to make more deals

The A's are - or at least have been, not sure on last year - routinely in the top of the league in terms of money spent per win.  They offer ridiculously low prices on tickets, many in single digits and Wednesdays being $2.  Given that Oakland has one of the worst venues in professional sports (and facilities, no free agent wants to play there - i.e. Beltre last offseason) and is located in one of the worst areas, I can't see what else can be done.  Tickets are two freaking dollars and they still turn out <15,000. 

Truth is the A's need to make money to spend money with the current ownership (not Beane, but Wolf), not the other way around.  In order to make money you need to, 1) win - think 20 game win streak, sold out, 2) nice stadium/experience attending games (i.e. AT&T in SF), 3) be in a big market or loyal fan base, or some combination of the three.  It is unrealistic to expect the A's to continue to be successful with one of the lowest payrolls in baseball, in a horrible venue in a horrible area.

So, in summary, Beane is no longer producing incredible results with minimal resources.  So what, its unrealistic to think he should.  

(And don't bring up the Rays or pre-2012 Marlins as examples that small markets can win; Oakland had 88+ wins seven years in a row and made the playoffs in five of them.  Sure they have tailed off in the last five years, but at some point expectations have to be tempered.)

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 3:23 pm

Beane expects A's to make more deals

Too bad the first scene in Moneyball wasn't the conversation Beane had with Colorado when he traded away Carlos Gonzales, and Houston Street. 

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: December 26, 2011 7:16 am

Beane expects A's to make more deals

better delete this franchise!!!!...perpetual fan base...
with Cahill and Gonzalez...with the return of someone as Anderson,Braden, Ross...if they just add just some offense(resign Crisp..probably a faster line-up is better suited for a team as Oakland..add power is expensive, add speed is cheaper)they can compete for the playoff easily.. 

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 25, 2011 8:12 pm

Beane expects A's to make more deals

No surprise here. This is what Oakland does. Develop prospects then develop them in to major leaguers (some above average) then deal them off when they blossom for more prospects. Hopefully for there sake when they move the team in a few years people actually attend the games so they can retain some of the talent they develop. Averaging basketball game crowds for baseball games isn't exactly a recipe for success. Beane has no choice but to do what he does. With all that being said I think the have fared very well in the two trades mentioned in this article.

Since: Aug 1, 2011
Posted on: December 25, 2011 1:07 am

Beane expects A's to make more deals

I think this guy thinks he is smarter than he really is.  Sooner or later he is going to get turds in return and that cupboard will be bare for him to trade in the future.    Needless to say I would like to thank him for sending Carlos Gonzalez and Huston Street to my Rockies.  We appreciated that brotha!  I burned up our website trying to get our GM to pull the strings for Gio.  Helll... I didnt even know Cahill was available.  Crazy.

Since: Sep 14, 2009
Posted on: December 25, 2011 12:01 am

Beane expects A's to make more deals

I agree, Billy Bonehead needs to go ! Who wants to watch a minor league team play against major league major league prices to see them lose all the time !! Bonehead is never playing for a championship.....always three or four years later....I will never pay my hard earned money to watch these kids lose to real pros all the time ! this guy is a joke.....hurry up an move !!  Bring back winning not little leaguers overmatched.....As long as he is GM of Oaktown A's......I will never attend any of their games ! Billy Bonehead(Bean) sucks and so does the teams he asks fans to pay to watch ! Take your circus act somewhere else .....I'm sure Bonehead wouldn't last long in LA where he lives !!  Wish we could trade GM's !!  Lets trade our punching judy team for some Babe Ruth kids.... they should be good in 10 years ! This organization is garbage....thats why no one wants to play for The A's....LOSERS.....C YA........

Since: Dec 24, 2011
Posted on: December 24, 2011 12:16 pm
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Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 24, 2011 11:01 am

Beane expects A's to make more deals

Catcher Kurt Suzuki is becoming too expensive for the team as well.  Derek Norris throws out lots of runners.  I see Suzuki being traded soon as well.  As soon as somebody decides they need a new catcher.  Maybe trade him to the Yankers for 1B Jesus Montero.  Anything that weekens the Spankees is good for baseball.

Since: Dec 21, 2011
Posted on: December 24, 2011 10:57 am

Beane expects A's to make more deals

why is he doing this he is loseing some of the big time picther and i don't care about the number just think little bit and says that was really dumb moves what if he trade Bailey for brain roberts and ryan adams and a's need to fire beane before this team is destory.

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