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Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Posted on: December 19, 2011 9:55 am
Edited on: December 20, 2011 12:17 am
 


By Matt Snyder


What if players were only permitted to stay with the team that originally made them a professional? No trades, no Rule-5 Draft, no minor or major league free agency ... once you are a professional baseball player, you stay in that organization. This series shows how all 30 teams would look. We give you: Homegrown teams. To view the schedule/past entries of this feature, click here.

On the strength of an incredible -- and mostly homegrown -- pitching staff, the San Francisco Giants won their first World Series in 2010 (yes, the Giants had won the World Series before, but that was as the New York Giants). So when you picture how the Giants would fare in this just-for-fun series, you might think these Giants will be pretty good. If so, you'd be wrong. You'll find a similarity to the real Giants in terms of pitching and offense, but the bad is much, much worse. In fact, it's awful. Don't say we didn't warn you ...

Lineup

1. Brandon Belt, RF
2. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
3. Buster Posey, 1B
4. Nate Schierholtz, CF
5. Yorvit Torrealba, C
6. Brett Pill, LF
7. Matt Downs, 2B
8. Brandon Crawford, SS

Starting Rotation

1. Tim Lincecum
2. Matt Cain
3. Madison Bumgarner
4. Ryan Vogelsong
5. Francisco Liriano

Bullpen

Closer - Brian Wilson
Set up - Joe Nathan, David Aardsma, Sergio Romo, Scott Linebrink, Jason Grilli
Long - Jonathan Sanchez, Kevin Correia

Notable Bench Players

Hector Sanchez, Emmanuel Burriss and Conor Gillaspie.

What's Good?

The pitching staff could be even better than the real-life lock-down staff because you add the upside of Liriano, along with Nathan and Aardsma as setup men for Wilson. Of course, Nathan had a down year while recovering from Tommy John surgery, Liriano was pretty bad and Aardsma missed the entire season with his own injury. But since we're living in a dream world anyway, just picture this staff with everyone at his best. It's amazing, top to bottom.

What's Not?

Pretty much everything else. There is no bench depth at all, which is bad because Torrealba, Pill, Downs and Crawford don't have any business being everyday big-league starters. The Belt-Sandoval-Posey start to the lineup isn't bad, but after that the lineup is brutal. Schierholtz is fine for a six or seven hitter, but definitely not cleanup on a team that wants to be in playoff contention. The presence of Sandoval and Posey probably prevents this from being the worst Homegrown offense, but it's really, really bad. The team speed is lacking, too, so the offense can't exactly hope to put pressure on the defense that way. Oh yeah, the defense. Due to having one true outfielder (I still count Belt as a true first baseman) on the entire roster in addition to that guy being a corner outfielder having to play center, and we have four guys playing out of position. The outfield's range in particular would be crippling to the elite pitching staff in that spacious outfield.

Comparison to real 2011

It's similar in that the pitching is great and the offense is a big problem, but this offense is far worse than the real-life Giants' was -- and that wasn't good enough to make the playoffs. The actual 2011 Giants went 86-76 and were quite fortunate to get there with such a bad offense. This group couldn't possibly get to .500, even with the one of the best pitching staffs in this exercise -- and, again, the defense would make the pitchers look worse. I think it looks like a 75-win team, based purely on the pitching staff, Sandoval and Posey.

Up next: Oakland Athletics

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Comments

Since: Aug 6, 2010
Posted on: December 23, 2011 3:43 am
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

That pitching staff is BEAST. from bullpen to starters



Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: December 22, 2011 11:12 am
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Guys:

Gary Brown isn't on the 40-man roster. We had to draw the line somewhere in picking the rosters, otherwise it would have taken the entire offseason to place players. But, yeah, if you were looking only at one team, I could see a promotion like that to fill out the roster.

GiantsDieHard:

Before you resort to name-calling, have you seen Belt's minor-league OBP? I figured it would be a good way to jumpstart a lackluster lineup. And what ever happened to respectful disagreement? Heaven forbid ...

- Matt



Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: December 21, 2011 12:04 am
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Matt, what kind of moron would have Belt hitting leadoff?  How about?

1) Gary Brown from the minors - he will be starting soon enough - CF
2) Nate - RF
3) Panda - 3B
4) Posey - C
5) Belt - 1B
6) Pill - LF
7) Burriss - 2B
8) Crawford - SS

Not great, but better than what you have...



Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: December 20, 2011 9:28 am
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

I think its time to trade Cain. Hes value is high, hes a freeagent after this year, and we need hitting. Honestly i dont see us signing both Cain and Lincecum to long term deals. And im afraid the gaints will only give them both 2 year deals if that and with the offense that we put out every night both of them are gnna see the grass is greener on the other side.



Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: December 19, 2011 9:42 pm
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

I waited two months for this????? Damn! Well, I guess I knew but didn;t want to admit it.
Haha, sorry to leave you in suspense for so long, man. Thanks for reading.

- Matt



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 8:48 pm
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Wow. This is a 90-95 loss team. The bullpen is lousy, the offense is lousy, and the defense is horrendous. Great starting pitching, but they have to go deep every night into the 8th inning.



Since: Dec 18, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 8:45 pm
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

and who says that melky and pagan are insignifigant upgrades?  



Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 8:15 pm
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

My bad....missed the whole purpose of the article....apologies



Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 8:13 pm
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

Wait....am I missing something or didn't the Giants trade Sanchez and Ryan Verug to the Royals for Melky Cabrera......in NOVEMBER. Dude when was this article written, it says 12/19, I will chalk it up to me for missing something, b/c I would expect someone who writes this article to know about that trade



Since: May 20, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2011 5:47 pm
 

Homegrown Team: San Francisco Giants

I waited two months for this????? Damn! Well, I guess I knew but didn;t want to admit it.




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