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Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

Posted on: November 28, 2011 7:15 pm
Edited on: November 29, 2011 11:06 am

By Matt Snyder

Earlier Monday, Buster Olney of ESPN tweeted that the Cubs were willing to trade starting pitcher Matt Garza and there's been much discussion all day about where he might be headed, if he's traded. This isn't really news, though, because it's widely known the Cubs will listen to trade offers on just about everyone (21-year-old shortstop Starlin Castro probably isn't headed anywhere, but everyone else could surely be had at a reasonable price).

Still, we might as well just take the opportunity to talk about where Garza would fit. It's that time of the year, after all, with the Winter Meetings starting in just one week.

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We know the Yankees and Red Sox want starting pitching. They always do. The Blue Jays, Rockies and Reds are also looking and a trade would fit better than spending big on a free agent. The Marlins and Nationals have been heavily involved in courting free agent starting pitchers, and in doing so they wouldn't have to cough up a good package of prospects, but don't count them out, either. And the list could be even bigger, this was just picking out a few obvious teams.

Expect the new Cubs administration -- led by Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer -- to actively seek out ways to restock the farm system as they look to build a strong foundation. That means if you see a name in trade rumors, it's probably true the Cubs are listening to offers. To reiterate, they're listening on virtually everyone. They're looking for any opportunity to start planning for the future, even if it's at the expense of the present.

Garza, 28, was 10-10 with a 3.32 ERA, 1.26 WHIP and 197 strikeouts in 198 innings last season, his first in Chicago. Sabermetric stats such as FIP, xFIP and WAR loved Garza last season, too, so front offices with analytical leanings will certainly be contacting Epstein, Hoyer and company.

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Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: November 30, 2011 12:21 pm

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

The Twins got rid of Garza because he doesn't listen to pitching coaches.  There is no way he will ever play again for the Twins.

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: November 30, 2011 7:59 am

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

Garza is the kind of player missing from the top of the Twins organization. Wouldn't it be great if... DOH!

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 11:54 pm

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

Most people are looking past the obvious.  The Cubs still owe the Red Sox compensation for Theo Epstein.  According to the Boston Globe, in order for Epstein to go to Chicago "substantial compensation was promised.  Boston already tried to get Garzza as compensation and were turned down.  Rumor has it that Garza could be headed to Boston for two of their best prospects, including Anthong Renaudo, their top pitching prospect.  It makes sense.  Theo stays with what he knows.  And what he knows is the Boston minor league system.  After all, he drafted them.

Since: May 5, 2009
Posted on: November 29, 2011 6:36 pm

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

Yonder Alonso for Garza would be a mutually beneficial move you're right about the young C but maybe not Heisey. Alonso has no future with the Reds and the Cubs need a 1B. Garza will have a better overall year next year especially if he's on a team with a good defense with and bullpen. Garza on the Reds would be in the 16-18 W range with a 3.00 max ERA and at a great price. At this point I don't think the Cubs care about trading within the Division when they won't compete for some time. Although trading with the Yanks and packaging in Soriano would be pretty sweet.

Since: Jun 27, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 2:59 pm

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

I don't see the logic in trading your best pitcher for prospects. Unless you are getting MLB ready players who will start on your team, why on earth would you trade your best pitcher?  Big Z has one more yr and then he is gone. And he has potential to get us 200 innings.  Dempster blew up.  Wells and Coleman were just horrible.  So if you NEED pitching, why trade your best pitcher?  His numbers are well known.  He had alot of wins turn into blown saves by Marmol (who I would trade now, he has value...but loses games).  The reality is, the Cubs had 4 good players last yr.  Garza, Aramis, Castro, and Sean Marshall.  That's it.  Ramirez is gone, so now the Cubs have 3 good players left. They need 3 new OF (but will only get 2 cause of Soriano). Cubs need corner IFs, at least 2 new SP, one or two bullpen arms, and a new catcher.  I would trade Soto while he has some worth.  Castillo is ready and not worse than Soto, and is cheaper.  Unless you get a pitcher with better numbers and a cheaper price tag than that of 6 million, why trade Garza?  Just dumb in my opinion, given the fact that your 25 man roster needs about 21 new players.

Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 11:06 am

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

Good old Olney, scribing about something he thinks ought to make sense.

Since: Nov 29, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 11:02 am
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Since: May 30, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:57 am

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

I don't know if Theo is going to still be around to see the fruits of his labor.  The next 3-5 years are going to be pretty lean and Cubs fans aren't going to be too happy with seeing a bargain basement team on the field, even if its for the better of the organisation down the road.  The pressure he saw in Boston is going to look like a lazy sunday compared to what he will have to endure to build a first class organisation.

Since: May 8, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:34 pm

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

I could see the Jays offering a solid package in order to acquire Garza, and could even see them pushing hard in order to do so. He's AL East tested, and has faired well as a former member of the Rays. 

The Jays could offer a package with a high-ceiling arm like Kyle Drabek, Deck McGwire, and/or others, an outfielder type like Travis Snider/Eric Thames, and another player depending on what Epstein and company are looking for. These guys know the AL East, so look for Garza to either be a Blue Jay or a Yankee if he's traded this offseason. 

Since: Oct 30, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:05 pm

Trade rumor du jour: Matt Garza available

You are really sheltered if you think the Reds would give up those three for Garza. The future of the Reds for one pitcher? No freaking way. Alonso alone would not be worth Garza to the Reds. Mesoraco is the Reds catcher of the future.

The Cubs probably won't get much in return for Soriano, but they will have to eat that contract of his. Same with Zambrano. Although, Zambrano may get a better offer in return.

Teams will offer the Reds a better deal for Alonso, and it would be plain stupid to make that trade in division.

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