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Gibson, Maddon named top managers

Posted on: November 16, 2011 2:02 pm
Edited on: November 16, 2011 5:10 pm
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By C. Trent Rosecrans

Diamondbacks manager Kirk Gibson and Rays manager Joe Maddon overwhelmingly won the Manager of the Year award in the National League and American League, respectively, the Baseball Writers Association of America announced on Wednesday.

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Gibson, who took over as the Diamondbacks skipper during the 2010 season, received 28 of 32 first-place votes after he guided Arizona to a 94-68 record and the National League West title. Arizona lost their National League division series to the Brewers in five games. First-year Brewers manager Ron Roenicke received three first-place votes, with former Cardinals manager Tony La Russa receiving the other first-place vote. Roenicke finished second and La Russa third.

Maddon, in his sixth season with the Rays, received 26 of 28 first-place votes after leading the Rays to a 91-71 record and the American League wild card. The Rays trailed the Red Sox by 9 1/2 games on Sept. 2, before the team went 16-8 over their last 24 games, including winning their last five games to slip into the playoffs over the collapsing Red Sox. It is the second time Maddon has won the award, also winning in 2008. Detroit's Jim Leyland and Texas' Ron Washington received the other first-place votes, with Leyland finishing second and Washington third.

Voting for the award is done after the regular season and before the playoffs begin. 

Both managers won the award in the time-honored tradition of exceeding expectations. Although the Rays won the AL East in 2010, the team lost Carl Crawford, Carlos Pena, Matt Garza and nearly the team's entire bullpen from its 2010 team. 

Gibson's Diamondbacks were an afterthought in the NL West after losing 97 games in 2010. However, Arizona took the NL West lead on Aug. 10 and left the defending champion Giants in the dust over the final two months of the season.

In the name of full disclosure, I was a voter for the National League Manager of the Year and was one of the 28 voters to put Gibson atop my ballot. I put La Russa second and Roenicke third -- flip-flopping those two in the final week of the season after the Cardinals' remarkable run to the playoffs.  

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Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: November 17, 2011 3:06 am

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

Congrats to Arizona Diamondbacks HC Kirk Gibson in winning his first NL Manger of the Year award in just his first full season as a HC. Gibson will win more Manger of the Year awards for the D-backs for many more years to come.

Go D-backs & Gibson!!!!!!!Smile

Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: November 16, 2011 10:17 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

Balrog - I don't agree that the MOY should be the manager who does the most with the perceived least.  For one, because the perception of what you "should" be shouldn't factor into it at all.  If the media underestimated Gibson's ability to manage, than why should he get extra credit for exceeding poorly based expectations?  What about team's that were supposed to suck that didn't, but still didn't make the playoffs (Manny Acta, for example)?  I think Acta had far less talent than Maddon, and while not achieving as much, exceeding expectations immensely.  The formula is messed up.  You are a shoe-in for MOY if you A) make the playoffs and B) were not expected to make the playoffs.  If you were expected to make the playoffs, you are automatically disqualified (Leyland, Manual, Roenicke, etc.)  If you don't make the playoffs, you are also disqualified.  Its just stupid.

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Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: November 16, 2011 8:50 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

I wonder how many votes Francona got ... ROFL

Somebody should have given him one for a good laugh

Since: Oct 8, 2010
Posted on: November 16, 2011 8:26 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

@ freebird. Never say never. If Gibson continues to have success, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him wearing that famed Tiger D again.
Keep the faith.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:44 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

P.S. -- Voting is done BEFORE the playoff so voters did not know the Rangers would make it back to the World Series to take that into account.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:43 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

The answer is of course Ron Washington.  This has to be one of the biggest snubs ever in awards.
Washington did a heck of a job, no doubt, but I am guessing its the back to back World Series thing that hurt him this year.  You have the defending AL champ, you add some good pieces like Beltre (admittedly while losing some like Lee) and you just don't get as much credit for MOY as the guy who takes the team that was supposed to suck to the playoffs -- similar to voters holding it against a player in MVP voting if his team sucks, regardless of how well he plays (i.e. the reason Matt Kemp may not get the NL MVP instead of Braun, despite leading Braun in nearly every offensive and defensive statistic, and doing it without anybody like Prince Fielder protecting him in the lineup -- sorry, shameless plug for the guy I want to win).

AL -- Washington is definately in my top-two, not sure who I'd give it to (I pay more attention to the NL) but I can't fault the voters who voted for Maddon.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:37 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

I get it, but I don't understand why the criteria for MOY seems to be "Manager of a Team people thought would suck but made the playoffs".  The Red Sox showed that teams that are supposed to make the playoffs don't so isn't it an accomplishment to make the playoffs even when you are expected to...
Maybe its just me, but I don't understand your point---of course it is still an achievment to make the playoffs when youare "expected to" but not nearly the same achievment as taking last year's cellar dweller (like the Diamondback) or a gutted/small payroll team (like the Rays) to the playoffs (especially where you beat one of the "expected to"'s in your own division on a shoestring budget) -- since I don't get an award for sucking and missing the playoffs, I shouldn't get an award for "overachieving" and making the playoffs?  Because Francona does not get an award for missing the playoffs with a nearly $200million payroll, Maddon shouldn't get it for taking a team that lost most of its good players to the playoffs on a $50million payroll (beating the Sox in the process) and Gibson shouldn't get it for taking a team from worst to first in 1 year?  Of course MOY goes to the manager who has done the most with the least (or perceived least).

Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: November 16, 2011 6:22 pm

Gibson, Maddon named top managers

Teres, listen, last year my wife and I went to fifteen games at the Trop. We have season's tickets to Spring Training. This year we only went to six games. It's an hour and a half drive from our house. I'd love a new stadium, but I live 75 miles away. That's why we watch the games on TV.

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