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Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

Posted on: November 8, 2011 6:03 pm
Edited on: November 8, 2011 6:41 pm
 
Ryan MadsonBy C. Trent Rosecrans

The Phillies are "closing in" on a four-year deal with closer Ryan Madson, Jim Duquette of the MLB Network tweets, although a source tells CBSSports.com Scott Miller that "nothing is done," with Madson. Yahoo's Tim Brown tweets that the sides are talking about a deal worth $44 million and a fifth year option worth $13 million, but does note that it is not yet a "done deal" -- just close.

Duquette also adds that the deal could include a vesting option for a fifth year, as well.

Madson, 31, recorded 32 saves for the Phillies in 2011, his first season as the full-time closer. He has 52 career saves, but only one (2009) with as many as 10 saves. Madson was 4-2 with a 2.37 ERA in 2011, recording 62 strikeouts in 60 2/3 innings with a 1.154 WHIP.

Madson was coming off a three-year deal worth $12 million. 

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro had said he didn't want to hand over his closing duties to an unproven closer. The team was also rumored to be interested in former Boston closer Jonathan Papelbon, but that may have just been a bargaining ploy by the Phillies in attempting to keep Madson.

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Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:22 pm
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

Cuddyer wants 12M over 5 yrs and Amaro already balked at that. 12 is resonable, 5 yrs for a 33 yr old is certainly not. 



Since: Jul 13, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2011 9:54 pm
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

4 yrears 52 mill for cuddy??? if thats what hes demanding we dont want him either!



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:28 am
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

$11M/year isn't bad for a closer, Lidge got $12.5M/year. I'm actually a little surprised at $11M, figured he'd get more on the open market. Still gotta get Rollins and Cuddyer deals finished. 3-years $39M for Rollins and 4-years $52M for Cuddyer, each with a team option for another year.


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Since: Nov 9, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:17 am
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Since: Aug 18, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:16 am
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

I am confident that the Phillies will address every issue on your list (which for some reason doesn't include a closer).  Madson is just the first domino, and the best fit for the Phillies as a closer.  There are more moves to come.  Patience is a virtue.



Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 9:23 am
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

I'm just shocked at the years. I said before the negotiating season started that Madson would cost about $10-11M. But certainly I thought the Phillies would restrict that deal to three years. Four may be a bit of a stretch, but five is a definite gamble. I hope that is a club option.

And for everyone saying the Phillies should have waited for the market to shape or that they overpaid, the rumor was that Madson would be able to get four years on the open market. $11M/year isn't that much. And every year except his perfect season, Madson has been every bit better than Brad Lidge. This is just moving the closer money to a better pitcher. And the devil you know (Madson) is better than the devil you don't (Papelbon).



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 8:32 am
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

That $20 million in excess gets used for Hamels and Pence in salary arbitration/new contracts. The will exceed the 2011 payroll, even going over the luxury tax to make a roster that Amaro( and Dave Montgomery/ billionare owner John Middleton) likes.



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: November 9, 2011 7:30 am
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

I think you're forgetting that Cliff Lee and Ryan Howard are both due huge raises for this coming season, and I believe Carlos Ruiz is getting a raise, too.  So I wouldn't count too heavily on those overall savings figures you're relying on.
Actually, Ryan Howard has the exact same salary for 2011, 2012 & 2013 under the deal he signed back in April 2010.  Cliff Lee does get a raise of $10m so that still leaves in excess of $20 million to spend for 2012 without exceeding the payroll number from 2011.



Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 12:19 am
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

Phils have much less than 32 million if they throw away 11 million a year on Madson.  It's like Amaro hasnt watched the playoffs the last two years.  Utley is on one leg, and is basically a 7 hitter, Howard cant hit good pitching, way too many holes in his swing, and very little power in the rest of the lineup. In other words it would appear obvious a hitter or two should be the priority, not resigning a first time closer to a ridiculous contract.  No one else is giving him 8 much less 11.  I thought Amaro was smart, I'm realizing all he's really good at is spending money.  Our bench is awful, we've got two glaring holes in our lineup and his big acquisition is a closer?



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2011 11:55 pm
 

Report: Phillies 'closing in' on deal for Madson

Between Oswalt, Ibanez, Lidge, and Rollins the Phillies can free up just under $49 million to fill holes and fortify the roster for the future. . . .If Ruben Amaro lets Rollins walk and extends/resigns Hamels, Pence, and Madson he still has a good $32 million to play with in 2012.

DBowman, I think you're forgetting that Cliff Lee and Ryan Howard are both due huge raises for this coming season, and I believe Carlos Ruiz is getting a raise, too.  So I wouldn't count too heavily on those overall savings figures you're relying on.


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