itsouthere, a couple of points in response to your post:


1) I am no fan of the Wilpons either, but Bernie Madoff had little to do with a flawed team blowing a seven game lead with 17 to go in 2007, or blowing a four game lead in the wild card race late the following year.  At that point, most Mets fan couldn't tell you who the guy even was.  Those teams were put together by Omar Minaya, and yes it was precisely his fault.   More to the point, having seen that group fail twice, it was certainly his fault that he didn't think outside the box and try to redo the mix of a team that had demonstrated two years in a row an inability to get it done when it truly mattered.  In fact, I doubt Omar even knew he was in a box.  The core of the team should have been redone then instead of waiting for Delgado and Beltran to get old.


2) I happen to like both Reyes and Wright.  I don't think my post at all judges Wright on the basis of an injured year last year, and in fact argues that season is not an indicator of his true value and that a savvy GM might be open to dealing for him in spite of 2011.   What I did was point out flaws that too many Mets fans overlook.  David has never been a big hitter with runners in scoring position and he just does not make enough contact.  He didn't strike out 300 times in 2011, he did it in 2009 and 2010, in two seasons in which he combined to hit 42 homeruns.   Does that make him a bad ballplayer?  Not at all.  What it does make him is a guy with flaws who may never be the guy that Mets fans envision getting a mega return for in any trade.   I wouldn't be brokenhearted if he stays.   But given he is already set to make 15 million a year in 2013, at what price?   He better be the guy who can bring this team back from the dead if they decide to pay him moving forward.


3) As for Reyes, at this point it isn't about getting rid of him since he is no longer Mets property.  It's about making a reasonable offer.  Unless one accepts that he has suddenly morphed into a guy who is going to hit .337 every year, his primary asset is his speed.   So what length of deal do you offer him?  Frankly I think anyone going more than five years especially at  the megabucks likely to be offered is likely to wind up questioning that decision six or seven years down the road when the best of Reyes' talent has deserted him.


4) I too have been a Mets fan since 1968 and share your pain.   I particularly felt it on June 15, 1977, when the Mets foolishly dealt Tom Seaver, arguably the greatest pitcher of the 20th century, for four guys who never amounted to anything.    Wh
ile I agree in principle with what you say, mentioning either Wright or Reyes in the same sentence as Seaver is a bit of overkill.   While they are likely to both have very nice careers, at this point the only way either ever gets into Cooperstown to take a look at Tom's plaque is to buy a ticket.    &nbs
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itsouthere, a couple of points in response to your post:


1) I am no fan of the Wilpons either, but Bernie Madoff had little to do with a flawed team blowing a seven game lead with 17 to go in 2007, or blowing a four game lead in the wild card race late the following year.  At that point, most Mets fan couldn't tell you who the guy even was.  Those teams were put together by Omar Minaya, and yes it was precisely his fault.   More to the point, having seen that group fail twice, it was certainly his fault that he didn't think outside the box and try to redo the mix of a team that had demonstrated two years in a row an inability to get it done when it truly mattered.  In fact, I doubt Omar even knew he was in a box.  The core of the team should have been redone then instead of waiting for Delgado and Beltran to get old.


2) I happen to like both Reyes and Wright.  I don't think my post at all judges Wright on the basis of an injured year last year, and in fact argues that season is not an indicator of his true value and that a savvy GM might be open to dealing for him in spite of 2011.   What I did was point out flaws that too many Mets fans overlook.  David has never been a big hitter with runners in scoring position and he just does not make enough contact.  He didn't strike out 300 times in 2011, he did it in 2009 and 2010, in two seasons in which he combined to hit 42 homeruns.   Does that make him a bad ballplayer?  Not at all.  What it does make him is a guy with flaws who may never be the guy that Mets fans envision getting a mega return for in any trade.   I wouldn't be brokenhearted if he stays.   But given he is already set to make 15 million a year in 2013, at what price?   He better be the guy who can bring this team back from the dead if they decide to pay him moving forward.


3) As for Reyes, at this point it isn't about getting rid of him since he is no longer Mets property.  It's about making a reasonable offer.  Unless one accepts that he has suddenly morphed into a guy who is going to hit .337 every year, his primary asset is his speed.   So what length of deal do you offer him?  Frankly I think anyone going more than five years especially at  the megabucks likely to be offered is likely to wind up questioning that decision six or seven years down the road when the best of Reyes' talent has deserted him.


4) I too have been a Mets fan since 1968 and share your pain.   I particularly felt it on June 15, 1977, when the Mets foolishly dealt Tom Seaver, arguably the greatest pitcher of the 20th century, for four guys who never amounted to anything.    Wh
ile I agree in principle with what you say, mentioning either Wright or Reyes in the same sentence as Seaver is a bit of overkill.   While they are likely to both have very nice careers, at this point the only way either ever gets into Cooperstown to take a look at Tom's plaque is to buy a ticket.    &nbs
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