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Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:06 pm
By Matt Snyder

ST. LOUIS -- Neither World Series manager would commit to a firm plan in terms of how their respective starting rotations would line up in the series, but both do have a good idea what direction they are going.

Rangers skipper Ron Washington said that after C.J. Wilson -- who has already been announced as the Game 1 starter -- he would go with Colby Lewis in Game 2 and "we're still up in the air as to where we'll go after that, but Colby will throw the second game."

Matt Harrison and Derek Holland have been in the postseason rotation behind Wilson and Lewis, but Washington hasn't made any decisions for anything beyond Game 2.

For the Cardinals, manager Tony La Russa has named pitchers through Game 4, but it's still subject to change.

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"We are going to announce that Jaime (Garcia) is pitching Game 2, and right now (pitching coach) Dave (Duncan) is home, will be back tomorrow, and I know that we're going to look at it closely. But I think we'll be penciling in Kyle Lohse for 3 and Edwin (Jackson) for 4, but that might change when we talk a little more."

A major concern for both teams was the ineffectiveness of most starters in each respective LCS. The Rangers' starters had a 6.59 ERA in the ALCS while the Cardinals starters have a 5.43 ERA in the entire playoffs.

The Cardinals were reportedly having an additional scare, too: Chris Carpenter's elbow was recently said to be a problem. La Russa attempted to alleviate some of that fear.

"If he wasn't sound, he wouldn't be pitching (Wednesday)," La Russa said, when asked if Carpenter's health was sound. "I think what I understand is that way back in August every once in a while he would find -- his elbow was a little stiff, so he would monitor his bullpens, but he also finished really strong. He's been getting treatment, and I know put his hand on the Bible the other day, a couple days ago, with the trainers and the doctor, and they all feel he's good to go."

Carpenter seemed a bit annoyed that talk was centered on his health.

"I'll speak about it one time, and that's it," he said. "Coming out of that start in Milwaukee, I had 200-something innings, 4,000 pitches or whatever and it's the middle of October. Everybody has got soreness and everybody has got aches. I got some treatment on my elbow. My elbow is fine. Tony and 'Dunc' would not throw me out there if it wasn't, and neither would the trainers or doctors. I would have been fine to pitch two days ago or yesterday, whatever day Game 7 would have been, and I'm fine to go Wednesday. I wouldn't go out there if I wasn't. That wouldn't help my team anyway."

That's about as emphatic as one could be, so it would appear he's perfectly fine.

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Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:31 pm

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

The Rangers don't deserve to be there, they didn't even beat the best team in the AL.....the Cards beat the best team in baseball.  JOKING of course, but anyone who says the Cards don't belong needs to start from scratch by learning to play checkers - you can rejoin the convo in a couple years.

Since: May 4, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:16 pm

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

I just love it that people say, "The Cardinals shouldn't even be in the World Series...they are going to lose."  The fact is, MLB put the Wild Card in there for a reason and the Cardinals won the wild card, plain and simple -- deserving.  They were pitted against the best team in the regular season and they won the series -- deserving.  They beat the Brewers in the NLCS -- a team, by the way, who had the BEST record winning at home.  The Cardinals beat the winningest team at home on their own turf for the NLCS title -- deserving.  And now they will face a team who had only 6 more wins than the Cardinals, and all people can say, is they don't deserve it?  They've beaten the best in the National League and the bats will come alive, the bullpen will bring the heat, and the Cardinals will win it, at home, in 6.  They will beat the "best" of what the American League has to offer -- deserving. 

Since: May 4, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:03 pm

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

What do you mean they shouldn't be there?  They are the best team in the NL, so says the pennant they just won.

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:57 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

Rangers in 4!! cardinals shouldn't even be here!!!!

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:27 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

i hear that the cardinals added westbrook to the roster and may start em game 4 over jackson
Yes, Westbrook is on the WS roster, and there as been rumbling that he may start in place of Jackson; Westbrook is a sinkerball pitcher and if he can successfully keep the ball down in Arlington that would help keep the Rangers hitting at bay.  However, another theory that's been floated is that his presence on the roster was to be there in case a game gets out of hand in the Rangers' favor.  In that case, he would come in and finish, eating up innings (a la Jackson in a game against the Brewers in the regular season) thereby saving the bullpen for another day. 

Since: Mar 11, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:40 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

hafdolla23, sure the Cards bulpen threw a lot of innings against the Brew Crew, but none have thrown since Sunday. They are all good to go. Not saying we can do that to them again, but coming into the series that shouldn't make a difference. 

I don't know a lot about the park down in Texas(although I know it's hitter friendly), but Busch has been a pitcher friendly park. They may have more HR threats, but we don't lack them(Pujols, Berkman, Holliday). 

I don't believe there will be 15+ runs per game. We will see a game or 2 like that, but we should see some more normal games as well. I just don't buy that the entire series we don't see a least 1 or 2 starting pitches step up big for their team, unless maybe we get a short series where 1 team just sweeps the other out of the park, which I don't think any of us expect.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:38 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

Good, solid World series. I'm real divided on who is going to take the title. This could go the full 7. Good luck to both teams.

Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:32 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

This should be a great series and hopefully will be.  The Cardinals and Rangers are both rally style teams that never give up and always seem to find a way to get that clutch hit.  Starting pitching has been a problem for both teams but the pens have been very solid.  The only difference that I see is that the Cardinals are really pitching better than they are in the pen.  It could continue through the end of the series or it could blow up in any of the games.  Their pen has come a long ways but not sure it can hold late leads through the end of the year.  Having home field is a good thing to have (especially making the Rangers pitchers bat.)  Lineups are full of dangerous hitters and the Cardinals lineup has gotten more dangerous with Freese starting to knock the cover off the ball.  My prediction is Rangers in 7 but It really could go either way and I think that will make it a great series.

Since: May 30, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:51 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

REBEL41....that is a interesting prediction and one with some backing to it other than the typical fan that just blares out..."uh the cards will like sweep the series and the Rangers have like no chance".....I believe the Rangers will actually pull this one out in 7 only because they have more firepower offensively than the Cards who can hit too.  However the starting pitching will be key and the fact that other than Carpenter (if he's healthy) there is none.  Texas's #1 CJ Wilson is awful and will be an easy game 1 win for you guys but the Cards bullpen as good as it was in the Brewer series was taxed....ALOT.  I believe that ultimately will be your doom and the Rangers will be averaging 8-9 runs a game especially in the 5th inning on.  The Rangers bullpen will be just good enough but in the end the Rangers outslug the Cards in 7.  Average runs total each game by both teams will be 15 or higher.  This is the kind of WS that is fun to watch because ball willl be flying out of the park at a high rate and the Rangers have more HR hitters than the Cards.  Finally the biggest part of this WS is he 100% after that injury scare?

Since: Dec 23, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:21 am

Rangers, Cardinals tentatively line up pitching

Again the Cardinals are tagged as the Underdog. I like our chances at Home first two Games. Carpenter is our Ace and Garcia piches well at Home. After that this Series will be wild. The Cards can hit just as well as Texas. Our bullpen is now our strength. Cards should win this in 6 games and again be the best Team in Baseball

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