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Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:08 pm
Edited on: October 18, 2011 2:45 pm
HoyerBy Evan Brunell

The Cubs are considering stealing away GM Jed Hoyer from the Padres to work under Theo Epstein, is reporting.

Epstein is expected to become the new Cubs GM before long provided his current employer, the Red Sox, can agree on a compensation package to allow Epstein to depart to Chicago. Part of the issue is which of Epstein's assistants in Boston, if any, he would be allowed to take with him to Chicago. Given that Boston is playing hardball, it's possible Epstein may not be able to take anyone.

Hoyer (pictured) worked under Epstein for years in Boston and was co-GM in 2005 along with Ben Cherington, expected to be Epstein's replacement, for a month when Epstein briefly resigned as GM of the Red Sox. There's no indication that Hoyer would be interested in leaving his GM post for a lesser spot, but the fact that he's being considered is fascinating.

While there's a slim possibility of this happening, it's difficult to see. Hoyer is signed through 2013 and the move to Chicago would either be lateral or a step down from his current role. If Epstein joins the Cubs as president, as expected given moving from Boston GM to Chicago GM would be a lateral move, that does leave a GM spot open in Chicago, but why would San Diego let Hoyer out of his contract for a lateral move? Organizations can poach people from other clubs for promotions, but Hoyer departing for a demotion or lateral move would be unprecedented. You would think that if this came to pass, the Padres would ask compensation to allow Hoyer to depart.

If he did leave to Chicago, senior vice president of baseball operations Josh Byrnes -- also with connections to working under Epstein in Boston -- would take over as Padres GM. If Hoyer stays, Epstein is expected to target Byrnes as well as Padres assistant GM Jason McLeod, also formerly of the Red Sox.

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Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:15 pm

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

The Padres should offer to pay half of his salary to get the Cubs to take him. This is the genius that brought in Ryan Ludwick and Brad Haupe to save the day. He also got rid of the Hairston brothers and David Eckstein to replace them with Jason Bartlett (who couldn't hit OR field), and Orlando Hudson (who is such a cancer that he has been on 5 teams in 4 years while helping none of them). He also managed to screw up the best bullpen in baseball. More money to spend will not improve his eye for talent (one look at Anthony Rizzo who can't hit a fastball should be enough to show anyone how easily he is hoodwinked). If he is with Epstein he can't sabatoge another team by giving him everything for nothing.

Since: Jun 20, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:59 am

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Wow, for some reason I am getting the feeling that the CUBS are actually trying to build a winner?  What is up with that?

Since: Dec 4, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:50 am

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

It's fascinating that it's possibly possible. Evan wins the award for using the word "possible" as many times as he can think of in a article. 

Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:10 am

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Jed Hoyer under Theo Epstein?  No way.  Theo is a bottom if I ever saw one.

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:05 am

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Jed Hoyer with Wrigley (sic Wink ) money?  He wouldn't know how to act.  I wonder if Jeff Moorad has a "no compete clause" like any other former agent.

Doubling the amount of money available, say $100 million instead of $50 million, should make Jed as happy as a pig in slop.  

Or show his failings magnified in a much bigger petrie dish.


Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:31 pm

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Oh and Da Mike...Obama switching to be a Cubs fan is not something I want or any Cubs fans.  Oh and thanks for helping to put him in office.  Great decision!

Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:26 pm

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Who cares if us Cubs fans are getting excited about Theo.  Nobody is saying that the streets are paved with gold now but we can be excited about a few possibilities.  The Red Sox already have a new GM and the Cubs will do what they need to so they can complete the deal.

Since: May 7, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:33 pm

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

I love how there are all of these "cart before the horse" reporters who have Theo Epstein coming to the Cubs and bringing every boy genius with him along with all major free agents and drafting every major prospect in the 2012 draft. I heard that Theo is actually working out a trade of Soriano for Strasberg plus cash! And Pujols is 100% Cubs next year. And President Obama is changing to a Cubs fan. And God created Theo then rested while Epstein created the rest.

This is amazing! The Cubs probably won't even get this guy because they won't give the BoSox the prospects they want, which makes all this talk unnecessary. Ricketts already tipped his hand when he let the word get out that he was going after Theo- Cubs fans and Chicago media will become a lynch mob if he doesn't get this guy. The BoSox have him by the nuts and they're twisting. They'll be lucky to get Theo let alone anyone else from Boston or Hoyer.

Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:20 pm

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Seeing as he isn't the Red Sox GM any longer, he's more a part of the Cubs than he is the Red Sox?

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:48 pm

Report: Epstein may steal GM Hoyer from Padres

Like they were going to steal Walt Jocketty, Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols ?

I hear Theo plans to drain Lake Michigan and buy the NL All-Star team with the fish he catches, too.  

Theo Epstein has them blaming Budweiser and Terry Francona for Boston's demise, even though he spent all that money and STILL somehow forgot the PITCHING....He's currently at large, and rumored to be escaping to Chicago, where he hopes the Cubs will deny extradition. I hear the Cubs are going to compensate the poor duped Redsox with prospects...ironic, that's probably the only way Theo could bring a prospect to Boston.

Theo IS slick.... If Bernie Madhoff was that slick, he would still be selling ponzi schemes and Wall Street would be in jail.

Theo needs a fall guy.  I think Mr. Hoyer might know a setup when he sees one.  


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