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Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

Posted on: October 13, 2011 7:43 pm
Edited on: October 13, 2011 9:06 pm
 
Verlander

By Evan Brunell


DETROIT -- The Tigers stunned the Rangers with an offensive explosion in the bottom of the sixth to force the series back to Texas, winning 7-5. The Rangers still lead the series, 3-2.

Hero: Justin Verlander didn't have a very Verlander-ish start, but he came up nails in a must-win game for Detroit. The righty gutted through 133 pitches over 7 1/3 innings, allowing eight hits and three walks. His final line was marred by a two-run homer in the eighth. He pitched out of trouble constantly, though, adding eight strikeouts to his ledger and getting the Tigers to the ninth inning. While Detroit was unable to go with Joaquin Benoit or Jose Valverde in relief, the Tigers were cushioned by a five-run lead once Ryan Raburn chipped in a solo homer in the seventh. (Oh, I suppose Delmon Young bashing two homers was pretty heroic, too.)


Goat
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The Rangers could be celebrating right now, and they might have been if Ian Kinsler wasn't so hack-happy. Verlander looked like he was on the verge of collapse in the top of the sixth, loading the bases by allowing a single, double and four-pitch walk to Mitch Moreland. There's no question Verlander was on the ropes, but Kinsler allowed him to get away scot-free by busting the first pitch down to third for a weak grounder that turned into a double-play.

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Kinsler said the answer as to why he swung at the first pitch was simple. "I got a pitch I wanted to swing at," he said. "I'm looking for a fastball. I'm looking for a good pitch." And he hit it for a double-play.

Turning point: In the bottom of the sixth inning, Ryan Raburn opened the inning by rifling a single. Miguel Cabrera followed with what should have been a routine groundout down the line, but Adrian Beltre was playing behind the bag and watched the ball sail over his head after clipping off the base. Raburn came around to score the go-ahead run and things completely imploded from there.


It was over when... Delmon Young stepped to the plate with Detroit having taken a 4-2 lead. Young immediately drove a stake into the hearts of the Rangers by blasting his second homer of the game, a two-run shot that put Detroit ahead 6-2.

Next: After four straight days of games, both teams will get a breather with an off-day on Friday. Game 6 will be played at 8:05 p.m. ET on Saturday, with Max Scherzer going for Detroit. The Rangers will counter with lefty Derek Holland, who was bombed in Game 2.

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 14, 2011 9:48 pm
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

Fister made alot of mistakes in the zone and the Rangers did not hit them.  I think he needs to be much sharper on the corners or they are going to eat him up if we get to game 7.

I don't know how many times you watched Fister pitch for the Tigers or Mariners before that, but those "mistakes" in the zone look like mistakes but in most cases they're not.  Pay attention to how much movement there is on his pitches... a pitch might end up in what looks like a very hittable pitch, but he fools a lot of hitters and throws off their timing.  

Look at Mariano Rivera, one of the best closers of all time.  A lot of his pitches look so hitting, a lot of his pitches end up right in the middle of the plate, but the pitch didn't start there.  

I still say tomorrow is the Rangers best shot to win this series... and my honest prediction is they'll find a way to do exactly that.  Scherzer this season was a much better pitcher at home then he was on the road.  That being said if I'm wrong and if the Tigers find a way to win tomorrow, I love Fister in a game 7.  



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 1:24 pm
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

redwings1969..  I dont think the Rangers worry about any pitcher.  With that said, coming into the series, I told my coworker that The Fister/Porcello type are a better matchup against Texas free swinging lineup than Verlander/Scherzer..  Now......  If you go back to Fisters start, I do not think he pitched all that well.  Both teams had awful offensive games in game 3.  Fister made alot of mistakes in the zone and the Rangers did not hit them.  I think he needs to be much sharper on the corners or they are going to eat him up if we get to game 7. I understand that at the end of the day, all that matters is a W...  but with a lineup like you are facing in Texas, I would not want to throw that many pitches close to the middle of the plate....  



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 1:19 pm
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

This article was about Verlander.  My comments were about Verlander and Verlander only.  I mentioned no other Tiger.  I was not talking about the Tigers team as a whole.  I said the Rangers let Verlander off the hook......  They did.  I didn't say they let the Tigers off the hook.  Either team could have won that game.  Verlander was in trouble alot....  he is extremely gutty and the fact that he can throw 100mph on his 133rd pitch is ridiculous.....  Once again, Verlander had a great year...  He was dominant for so much of the season that every game we thought he could throw a no no....  For the last month or so...  He has not been as dominant..  That does not mean he is not competitive or that he is not still great, but when you average 117 pitches per start, at some point, something has to give.  With all that said, I would still rather have Verlander on the mound over anyone else on this roster.  The Tigers probem is their bullpen.  It is non existant....  They shouldn't even have Penny on the post season roster since they are scared to death to put him in......  



Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: October 14, 2011 9:06 am
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

Wing 69,  other posters are right, Verlander has struggled in the Post season, maybe he is tired, maybe it takes him a couple of innings to get in the zone, if it wasn't for some rain delay's I think it would be much worse for the tigers, in my opinion he seems to be over thowing and not in control at times, maybe trying to do too much, at this point he been the tigers 3rd best starter in this series, and its been a great series, the tigers have nothing to be ashamed of! I like their chances,   



Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2011 8:31 am
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

The Rangers let Verlander off the hook tonight.

BOTH teams have left a lot of guys on base in this series.  The LOBs for Detroit were much worse coming in.  But that must have been great clutch pitching by the Rangers, not poor at-bats by Tiger hitters. Wink




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 13, 2011 11:04 pm
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

wow.  Is this really how you have seen his outings???  In NY, he was given an enormous strike zone and gave up 4 runs

The Yankees averaged 6 runs per game at home for 81 games this past season, giving up 4 in 8 innings is far from bad.  If you wanna start using umpires and strike zones as an excuse we could be here all day.  Tonight, yeah, he got lucky on that Beltre foul ball but again, if we are going to talk about luck we could be here all night long.  You think the Rangers 2 wins that went 11 innings in this series didn't require some luck along the way?  

Anyway, game 6 is Saturday.  The Rangers better win that game or they face Fister in Game 7.   And if even ONE Texas fan says they aren't worried about Fister, they are lying.   Saturday is the Rangers game 7 in my opinion.... win or they just might lose this series. 



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2011 9:31 pm
 

Relax

Relax guy- SDW is right, he hasn't been dominant in the playoffs, but he has showed alot of grit and determination.  He's doing what it takes to keep his team in games even if he's getting knocked around a little bit.

I actually really appreciate what he's done in these playoffs even more so than had he just went out and threw gems..  Verlander is as competitive as it gets, he has a mean streak that not many guys possess- where he just gets ice cold competitive and wills his team to victory. 
So yes, let's recognize that he has not been dominant in any way, but he's still showed us something.



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2011 9:24 pm
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

wow.  Is this really how you have seen his outings???  In NY, he was given an enormous strike zone and gave up 4 runs.  Tonight, he was as average as could be.  Beltre missed a HR by a foot where the ball had a crazy slice and he got out of 2 other jams where he had runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs and he didn't make great pitches.  The Rangers let Verlander off the hook tonight.  Verlander had a great season, but he has not pitched well for a while now....  Call it what it is.  a win and move on.  You do not have to try and rationalize a not so good outing.....  



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 13, 2011 9:02 pm
 

Tigers take four-run sixth to victory in Game 5

Tiger haters will look at Verlander's overall ERA in the playoffs and say he hasn't done a thing right, but that's so not true.  He had a great game in New York against the Yankees where he pitched 8 innings in a gutsy performance.  He gave up 4 runs but had them off balance all night long.  And now today another gutsy performance.  If Leyland pulls him after 7 or at the very least after the first out in the 8th when he should have pulled him at 130 pitches, the box score would only show 2 earned runs against Verlander but Leyland wait a couple hitters and the Rangers scored a couple runs.

This series has been full of craziness, just insane stuff every single night.  Going back to Texas we have a rested Scherzer on the mound with key pitchers in the pen like Benoit and Valverde getting a couple days of much needed rest.  Man, if we can win game 6 I believe Fister does the job in 7.... but game 6 is going to be extremely tough to win in Texas....

All we can do is hope and pray for the best.... either way, what a great season for the Tigers and win or lose there is nothing to be ashamed of.   Dombrowski has to work a little bit on the pen over the winter, get a little more depth and some mid to long relief guys that can throw strikes.  That's been the difference in this series, that and a million other crazy things that have happened. 


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