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Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

Posted on: October 11, 2011 11:59 pm
Edited on: October 12, 2011 1:40 am
 
Beltre

By Evan Brunell


DETROIT -- Adrian Beltre and Victor Martinez, dueling against each other in the ALCS, were teammates on the Red Sox last season and helped foster a healthy clubhouse with their leadership, which the Rangers and Tigers, respectively, have raved about. On Tuesday night, each displayed just what might have been missing on the Red Sox this season.

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Beltre came to the plate with one out in the fourth inning and took a massive hack against Doug Fister, fouling a ball off his left knee. He collapsed to the ground, and just like Nelson Cruz's hit-by-pitch off the wrist in Game 2, sent fear in the heart of Ranger Nation. Given Beltre's reaction, it would have been completely understandable for him to bail out of the game. But the third-baseman was having none of it, holding off the trainer and continuing the at-bat, despite clearly being hampered by the injury. He grounded out, hobbling to first base all the while. (X-rays following the game were negative.) Certainly, in the regular season with nothing on the line, Beltre likely would have been taken out -- but this is October, after all, and Beltre's never been a player that lets injuries stand in his way. This is a man who once fractured his testicle, for crying out loud ... and kept playing.

So no, Beltre wasn't coming out.

Then, in the bottom fourth, it was his ex-teammate's turn to show some fortitude. Martinez stepped to the plate with the Tigers down 1-0 and the crowd increasingly demoralized... and rocketed a home run to left field. Bedlam from the crowd, but Martinez instantly grimaced and stumbled toward the ground before gingerly running around the bases. This was a huge homer for Detroit, and all that happened was a casual fist-bump by Don Kelly in the on-deck circle, and then a somber reception in the dugout without the usual high-fives. Martinez immediately slammed his helmet before disappearing into the clubhouse tunnel, and it looked as if V-Mart may have fallen victim to an intercostal muscle strain.

Fast-forward to the bottom of the fifth. Miguel Cabrera at the plate with runners in scoring position, a situation the Tigers have struggled through all postseason. The TV cameras showed Martinez speaking to Leyland in the dugout, clearly not right. However, he headed to the on-deck circle with many theorizing that this was a fake-out to make the Rangers think V-Mart was going to hit and perhaps make an incorrect pitching coach before Martinez was pinch-hit for. That feeling was only furthered more when he didn't take any swings and watched Miggy blast a RBI double. And yet, Martinez stayed in the game. (CBSSports.com's Danny Knobler says Martinez is expected to play in Game 4 as well... surprise, surprise.) He didn't swing once in the at-bat, but worked a walk. You could tell that there was absolutely no way that Martinez was coming out of the game. This is a man who told reporters on Sept. 28 after injuring his big toe, "You're going to have to kill me to keep me out of the lineup." And after Game 3? "I will play tomorrow unless I am dead when I wake up."

So no, Martinez wasn't coming out.

On a night where the Red Sox's epic collapse may have claimed it's biggest victim yet in GM Theo Epstein, two players he allowed to leave in free agency showed on baseball's brightest stage the perseverance strangely lacking in Boston this season. And perhaps that's why the Red Sox are sitting at home with Red Sox Nation crumbling.

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Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:39 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

I know this year isn't a contract year for Beltre BUT... it somewhat is, he knew he HAD to treat this season like a contract year with the Rangers, HAD to!
NOTHING gets you off on the bad side of fans than to get lazy the first year you sign a new deal with the team.
He HAD  to put his best foot forward, if he didn't than he would've become persona non grata with the Rangers fans.
I would rather have Youkilis playing thirds for the Sox than Beltre, plain & simple, The Sox have A gone at first and Youk at third and I would rather have both of those guys than only one of them plus Beltre.
Both have shown they are MUCH better hitters than Beltre, sure he has the edge defensively and you can't compare third & first (as far as Agon & Beltre are concerned) but I would rather have Youk & Agon than Beltre.
Call me names all you like, if you look at Beltre's history and when he does well and doesn't my original posting holds true and if it didn't WHY didn't the Dodgers give him big money when he left to go to M's? WHY did the M's not give him big money? WHY were the Sox the ONLY team to offer him a deal and a 1 year one at that?
You can say that he and his agent only wanted a one year deal so he could get a big deal after he had a great year but that would just back up what I say which is that he plays hard when he WANTS to otherwise WHY take a chance on a one year deal?
I'll also say this, the Sox didn't want to give him more than a one year deal, they were happy to have him and would have signed him longterm had they not had the opportunity to get Adrian Gonzalez which means that Gonzalez was preferred over Beltre as was Youkilis.
Let's compare the numbers too:
Gonzalez
AB:630
Hits:213
Runs:108
RBI:117
Avg:338
OBP:410
slg:548
ops:.957

Beltre
AB:487
Hits:144
Runs:82
RBI:105
Avg:.296
OBP:.331
slg:561
ops:892

Sure looks to me like I would rather have Gonzalez than Beltre!
Oh and let's look at Beltre's #'s he NEVER had more than 23 HR's and then all of a sudden he hits 48 HR's in .04 only to drop to 19 HR's in the switch to the AL - under suspiscion as an abuser of PED's too mind you.
he also dropped 79 points in batting average too in the move to the Mariners, can't say it's the park because left field at Dodger Stadium is 330 feet to left field whereas Safeco Field is 331 - yeah, that 1 foot makes ALL the difference doesn't it?
Look at the #'s, think about all of what i've said here LOGICALLY and you will come to the same conclusion I have.
Not saying Beltre isn't a good player but he's certainly not the be all, end all the article suggested nor would his presence have changed anything for the Red Sox, they needed PITCHING to help them get to the playoffs and had they retained Beltre they wouldn't have Gonzalez and like I said I would rather have Gonzalez!


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Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: October 12, 2011 11:10 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

Apparently the Red Sox Ownership doesn't share your humor.  In light of recent rumors it was a clubhouse out of control.  Don't blame the ownership...it was Theo's and Francona's loosey goosey management styles.  The Sox now share the honor or soon will of the largest payroll in MLB and another notorius record of worst September collapse ever.  Curious who can take control.  Showalter comes to mind but will Baltimore let the best coach they have had since Earl Weaver?  Maybe but its going to hurt them in their farm system.  Can't wait for the Manager anouncement in Boston and the Winter meeetings.  Going to be another off season full of fun and suprizes.



Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: October 12, 2011 10:57 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

Totally agree.  VMart is no longer an everyday catcher great bat, obp and slugging.  But the Sox would have been over loaded at 3rd and first with these 2 guys.  Youklis and Beltre happy sharing 3rd ...would have been lots more beer drinking in the clubhouse.  180 mil tied up at first for 6 more years.  Just wouldn't have worked out chemistry wise.  The 2004 and 2007 Sox teams liked each other, thats the difference.  Crawford will come around...bright lights of Boston put the psych on his head as they would have in New York.  Winners play through injuries.  Old tired washed up arms at the trade deadline or picked up on waivers a losing strategy.  The only pitcher worth going after would have been Fister.  The Tigers would be advised to keep him.  Boston needs what all the winners need...solid SP and RP that can hold a lead.  Then knock off the Bull Durham crap in the clubhouse.  Get out in the dugout or the bullpen and be prepared to play or pitch!




Since: Jun 5, 2009
Posted on: October 12, 2011 10:54 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

Bison, you do realize this is not a contract year for Beltre, right?? Guess you rather not look at the numbers this season for Beltre since it makes you very stupid and ignorant...



Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: October 12, 2011 9:23 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

Trust me, just about every Red Sox fan mourned the day the Red Sox unceremoniously let VMART go.  Beltre, as great as he can be, is a little odd, at least that is wrote the media always wrote about him.  It was apparent whenever he did something good, the players rubbed his head and he hated it, to the point of being physical. I don't know how he is fitting in the Texas lockerrroom, and I know Francona wanted to keep him, but after this year, yes we most certainly know what we are missing, clas and dignity!  Right, 24 pack Josh?



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: October 12, 2011 9:10 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

On a night where the Red Sox's epic collapse may have , two players he allowed to leave in free agency showed on baseball's brightest stage the perseverance strangely lacking in Boston this season. And perhaps that's why the Red Sox are sitting at home with Red Sox Nation crumbling

I knew when I saw the title, this was an Evan Brunell article. It's unreal this guy gets paid to put across this dreck.

The Red Sox added Adrian Gonzalez. He replaced Victor Martinez. Who would you rather have? I think every baseball fan who actually follows the sport takes Adrian. He's a gold glove 1B man and a great hitter. Victor can hit, but is a butcher as a catcher and 1B.

The Red Sox chose Crawford over Beltre money-wise. They needed a LF, not a 3B man. They have a guy named Youklis, who when healthy is one of the best hitters in the league. He's also younger and cheaper. Another no-brainer there.

The Red Sox collapsed because their pitching did. Lackey, Wakefield, Miller all were horrid. Lester and Beckett faltered. They badly missed Buchholtz. Then their shutdown set-up man Josh Bard imploded. That's why they're sitting at home.

However, logic and facts always escape Brunell. Unreal.

Btw, I'm not even a Red Sox fan.



Since: Jul 2, 2011
Posted on: October 12, 2011 8:59 pm
 

Beltre, Martinez show Red Sox what they lost

YOUK = GLORIFIED BUMB wow, boston lost fran,and theo they will be lucky to finish third in 2012


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