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Tigers need Fister to step up now

Posted on: October 5, 2011 12:08 am
Edited on: October 5, 2011 12:52 am
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By Matt Snyder


Like a pendulum, the momentum in this ALDS has swung back and forth, even a few times during the games. Now that the Yankees put the hurt on the Tigers in Game 4, 10-1, the series will conclude Thursday night in Yankee Stadium. And the pressure is back on the Tigers, as Doug Fister takes the hill.

Fister was essential to the Tigers running away with the AL Central down the stretch. He was acquired from the Mariners in late July to minimal fanfare and immediately locked in for Detroit. After the trade, Fister was 8-1 with a 1.79 ERA and 0.84 WHIP and a much higher strikeout rate than he had for Seattle. Of course, he didn't have to face the Yankees during that stretch. In Game 1 of the ALDS, he did. And he faltered.

New York-Detroit ALDS
The outing was odd from the get-go, as Fister started on the hill as a road pitcher, and it was the bottom of the second inning, as it was a continuation of a suspended game. Still, he had time to prepare just as he would for any normal start. The result, in Fister's first career playoff appearance, was seven hits, two walks and six earned runs in 4 2/3 innings. He even balked. It was easily the worst outing of his brief Tigers career.

It's possible any nerves that may have affected Fister last time out will be gone, now that he has an outing in Yankee Stadium under his belt. Of course, the pressure won't lessen at all, because this is Game 5 of a five-game series in The Big Apple.

Whatever the problem was in Game 1, it needs to be solved before Thursday, because the Tigers are playing the Yankees in a win-or-go-home game. And the Yankees have the momentum.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:52 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 7:12 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

I dont think anybody said the Tigers were pathetic. They were talking about the other 4 teams in your division.  And they were right.

I don't get you guys and i hope we eliminate you so all you Yankee fans can take a break from the internet for a while, you guys are flat out obnoxious.  The Central division sucks? WHO CARES MAN...... I don't understand your point, all of you are idiots.  The series is tied at 2 and today is game 5 that decides the whole thing... end of story.   Every single professional sports league world wide has a weak division or conference, it doesn't make one iota of a difference that some fans cry about that, nobody cares about you idiots think.  I'm done trying to be nice to even some of you anymore.... screw all of you.  If it was up to you morons there would only be one division for 30 teams in each sport, number them 1 to 30, everybody plays each other a couple times and call it a day.  No divisions, no conferences and no rivalries. Just good old boring 1 to 30..... well, that's until it doesn't suit the Yankees and years later we would hear whining about how they took the Bosox Yankees rivalry away.... IDIOTS....

"duhhhhhhhhh, the Central sucks"............ "duh.................Verlander
and Fister are only good cuz Detroit's a pitchers park"........."Detroit's hitters are garbage, even though they hit the ball well in a pitcher's park" .............. "duh....cabrera is fat and ugly".............. duh, "the yankees hitting is great even though it's a hitters park"................

SHUT UP MORONS..... IN ANOTHER HOUR OR SO I HOPE YOUR DEMISE BEGINS AND WE CAN FORGET ABOUT YOU IDIOTS UNTIL APRIL.



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 6:16 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

BUT - to suggest that the run support is the main (or only) reason that Nova is 13-0 in his last 17 starts is underselling his ability and performance. Since the All Star Break (an artificial, but convenient milepost, especially when using ESPN's Splits), his ERA of 3.18 is 10th of all AL starters with at least 50 IP, and his WHIP of 1.15 is 14th. Both of these are pretty good numbers, especially since half of his games are at Yankee Stadium. 
Hoyt,

In no way am I saying Nova isn't a good pitcher.  He just hasn't put up the same kind of numbers as Fister.  If you go and look at the starter's ERA and WHIP since the all-star break -- Fister is at the top of the list in both.  He has a 2.43 ERA after the all-star break.

The only reason his record doesn't look like Nova's is because he played for Seattle and was getting less than 2 runs of support per start.  He came to Detroit with a 3-13 record -- He finished the year 11-14.

I even heard a few Yankee fans on these threads say Nova was better than CC, because of his record, which makes no sense what so ever, as CC has better stats in every category.  That is also the reason I said in Game 2, Detroit had the advantage in pitching, as Fister has better stats across the board than Nova, other than Win/Loss record.

Game 5 is a toss up -- none of us really know what will happen.  The teams that has their offense show up is going to win.  I think Detroit NEEDS to get an early lead to settle down Fister.  If he gets in a groove -- he can go thru innings quickly.  I'm just happy that he doesn't walk hardly any hitters, as at least he will make NY beat him with their bats, instead of free passes. 



Since: Oct 7, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 5:33 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

TIGER'S have to be sharp early, if fister gets into trouble, gives up a early lead, the yankee bats get going and the crowd gets more ramped up the TIGER'S are in for a long night!!!! detroit needs to score early and take the crowd out of the game or this game could get ugly for detroit!!! you will know early on if FISTER can shut the yankee's down, thats gonna be a key factor tonight. if detroit goes 3 up and 3 down and the yankee's push a couple of runs across in the 1st or 2nd inning, it could get ugly!!!! the YANKEE bats will step up tonight, A.ROD is going to have a couple of big hits, Yankee's 8 Detroit 3



Since: Aug 13, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:49 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

HOME RUN #40 for a non home run hitter.
As a previous poster mentioned, your assertion that Granderson's HR production is due to the peculiarities of Yankee Stadium is flawed. Here are some stats:
HRs - at home, 21, on road, 20
BA - at home, .262, on road .263
OBP - at home, .359, on road, .369
SLG - at home, .563, on road .543
OPS - at home, .922, on road .912

If you were to take his road stats and double them (in other words, give a full season at his away rate of production), here are his numbers:
.262 BA, 40 HR (and 14 triples!), 114 RBIs, 26 SB, .263 BA, .369 OBP, .543 SLG, .912 OPS.

In other words, he's pretty good wherever he hits...





Since: Aug 13, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:33 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

GoRedwings...
OH! I thought that goredwings was Gored Wings - was wondering why anyone from Detroit would use that name...Smile



Since: Aug 13, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:30 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

as far as nova not losing a game since june -- it isn't too difficult to see why -- if you don't know, go look at run support per start.  he finished #2 in the league with almost 9 runs a game.  not difficult to win games when the team is giving you that kind of support.  LOL
indeed, Nova most certainly benefits from having a great offense behind him. And, he will have that offense tonight too.  That is no guarantee - great pitching can stop great hitting any day. But it sure help.

BUT - to suggest that the run support is the main (or only) reason that Nova is 13-0 in his last 17 starts is underselling his ability and performance. Since the All Star Break (an artificial, but convenient milepost, especially when using ESPN's Splits), his ERA of 3.18 is 10th of all AL starters with at least 50 IP, and his WHIP of 1.15 is 14th. Both of these are pretty good numbers, especially since half of his games are at Yankee Stadium.

By the way, yes he did win 12-4, 11-7 and 17-3 ta various points during theyear - but he also won 4-3, 4-1, 3-0, 3-2, etc. - and had a 3-2, loss and  a 2-1 No Decision. It's not like he was winning 6-5 every game, nor winning only when the Yanks scored in double figures.



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:06 pm
 

Tigers need Fister to step up now

Yankee fan here, looking forward to a great game.  Fister really impressed me first time around - the guy's good.  

I'm hoping Yankee bats continue what they started late in the game Tuesday.  That O is streaky and when they hit they really hit.  Need A rod and especially Texeria to break out of their funks in a big way.  

It's a HR park, no doubt, but Fister more of a fly ball pitcher than the sinker-throwing Nova.  But Fister only gives up an HR every 20 or so innings.  

Git er done!
Neither pitcher is a fly ball pitcher.  With Nova throwing the sinker -- he G/F is a little better than Fister, but Fister still finished 13th in the AL in most ground ball induced for a starter.


I think the game is going to come down to what teams can actually hit today.  Detroit hasn't had production from any of their all-stars, other than Cabrera in Game 2.  NY hasn't had production from a few of their all-stars (ARod and Tex)  Difference is -- NY can get by without those two guys -- Detroit cannot get by without those guys tonight.

Should be a great game!!
 


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