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Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

Posted on: October 3, 2011 11:14 am
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Theo EpsteinBy C. Trent Rosecrans

A source tells ESPNBoston.com's Gordon Edes that it's "50-50" that Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein will leave Boston "for the right situation." Could that open the door for Epstein to take over the GM-less Chicago Cubs?

The opportunity to break the sport's two greatest curses would put Epstein in a category of famous front-office members that currently stands at one, and that's Branch Rickey. Not even Billy Beane and Brad Pitt would be able to top Epstein's accomplishment in baseball lore if he added a goat to his wall of skins along with the Babe. The only question would be if Ben Affleck would feel too jilted by Epstein leaving Boston to play the movie version of Epstein.

During Friday night's press conference announcing Terry Francona's departure, CEO Larry Lucchino and chairman Tom Werner dodged a question about Epstein's future and the team's GM didn't offer any insight, either.

Lucchino did note that Epstein is still under contract, which goes for one more year.

Edes noted, however, that owner John Henry feels some loyalty toward his general manager and would "not stand in the way" if Epstein wanted to go elsewhere.

But the Cubs may not be the only suitor if Epstein wants to leave Boston. The Angels also have an opening for a general manager. Michael Silverman of the Boston Herlad writes that "sources familiar with Angels owner Arte Moreno's thinking" are split about whether Moreno would want Epstein. Epstein may be fond of jackets and sweaters, but the ability to not need one in Southern California could appeal to him, as much as the challenge of ending the Cubs' title droughts.

Either way, before the general managers start chasing free agents, there will be a chase for general managers, with Epstein this year's version of Cliff Lee.

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Since: Sep 12, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 11:13 am
 

Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

the epstein case proves money and GM brains do not make championships.  it's the intangibles of players and their characters that do; or at least cannot be excluded.

theo loves stats and stars.  that's why he was dazzled into signing the 'busts' of carl crawford, john lackey, jd drew and others who made their reps elsewhere and now have lost them in boston.  theo failed last winter to act on his purely intellectual instinct to beef up the starting rotation, which he admitted on radio last FEB would not suffice in 2011, and was proved correct  by AUG.  why he failed to trade for good pitching by JUL to avoid foreseeable disaster is a question for the baseball ages.  i do not think he can answer it himself.

but the money he spent for the apparent glamour he sought does answer the question.  theo's brain is undermined by his love of fleeting dazzle, and that is the sign of a GM who has to go.



Since: Oct 4, 2011
Posted on: October 4, 2011 6:57 pm
 

Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

The Red Sox have always had a lot of money to spend, the only difference is Theo helped win 2 championships in 4 years as opposed to the goose egg Beantown put up in the previous 80 plus years.  Crawford and Gonzalez will prove to be excellent signings and if a bad signing or two was the litmus test for baseball GM's nobody would have a job.  P.S. I am a Yankee fan.  What is it about Boston and that city's angst and inferiority complex?  You finally had a successful front office and skipper and now you want to blow it up because of 2 years not making the playoffs in the toughest division in baseball?  Don't get me wrong, as a Yankee fan I am thrilled by this stupidity.  The Yankees have a quick hook for GM's and Managers too, but they also have a much different pedigree.  However, even by the standard of the Yankees' expectations, running Tito (and it appears Theo is not too far behind) based on the most recent Red Sox debacle is clearly a visceral as opposed to a rational decision. 



Since: Mar 27, 2008
Posted on: October 4, 2011 9:06 am
 

Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

we all know "epy" is done in bo sox nation. the dude signed lackey. nuff said! lackey should have been benched and or used in the pen.

first off epy doesnt even watch the west coast games finish. he sleeps too damn early. sign a gm that actually watches the west coast games finish so you can actually know that lackey (FRON ANA ANGELS) can actually pitch.

lackey was a POS in the works just watching him pitch as an angel. and yes even a mediocore angel fan could have told you that!



Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: October 4, 2011 8:26 am
 

Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

Massivek  the yankees have become very conservative,  the only signings that stick out is the reupping of aroid for 100s of mil WHICH CASHMAN VEHEMENTLY DISAGREED WITH. The other is the burnett signing.  The signing of cano is steal at that price the trade for granderson was excellent the resigning of jeter was ARDUOUS at best  in that the yanks were over a barrel they had to sign him for posterity but they refused to give him 20 mil a yr i believe he signed for a mere 16 mil per  and jeter was upset. my point is they arent throwing money around as much anymore where as epstein was give the combo to the vault and was unloading cash like it had the plague on it. again you cant but if you could go back when the sox signed crawford i was screaming NOOOOOO!!!! and wrote such  the same for lackey  and for that matter when they signed gonzalez!!  Im fair I dont like gonzo either.  Hes a stat man.  I'd like to see his numbers RISP LATE 7th inning on.  It seems and it became more apparent as the yr went along that he was more interested in the batting title than winning games.  I think the signings of dice k lackey crawford and every shortstop since cabrera came over in 04 have made it clear hes throwing darts instead of aiming with a snipers rifle.  Not every move works out--the commodity is humans/players so you cannot fail safely predict their production (bill James or not) but do your homework.  If he did he'd find that lackey i believe had won 15 games only twice in his career ona perrenial playoff team  he is a hothead BUT he throws innings (who cares if he throwing to a 4 to 6 era???) certainly thats no reason to throw the guy 85 million.  same for crawford  you NEVER EVER PAY FOR SPEED.  speed is fleeting (pardon the pun) it comes and goes a guy gets nicked he can play a speed player cant.  Look at aroid  had a bad knee still played and was realitively productive then left had knee surgery came back 6 weeks later and played again a guy like crawford is finished for the year hell maybe he loses a step for good!  and to sign him for SEVEN YEARS!!!! he'll be 34 trying to steal bases.  Hes not a lifetime 300 hitter  very little pop maybe 15 hrs  hes no gold glove left fielder and nobody was with 4 mil a yr for 2 less yrs near signing him.  They need a complete overhaul using their homegrown players; salty (not homegrown) C, Gonzalez (not homegrown but big contract)1B, Pedroia 2b, rookie SS who played this yr, lowrie at 3B, Crawford lf (unless you can get somebody to take 12-14 per yr)  elsbury cf, reddick rf, if crawford goes put kalish in rf and reddick in lf. pitching lester beckett bucholz, farm arm, and lackey (for this yr and eat last yr) dicek comes off the books after this yr (12)  awave goodbye to wakefield jenks  so by 2013 youre sitting on one bad contract crawford and one you could get rid of if need be gonzalez at 22 mil   



Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: October 4, 2011 8:17 am
 

Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

This is a joke and actually pisses me off on how people think this guy is good as a GM when he has the second most money to spend in baseball. If he cant buy and win in Boston then he will fail in Chicago. Cashman is the same way.  These clowns should win every year but they dont and every1 sez how smart they r.  Joe Giradi is the same way and so is Francona.  All loosers..   Why would u hire 1 of these guys if they cant win with 200 million?

What exactly is the plural noun, "loosers", anyway? *shakes head*

The legacy remains, no matter what Theo decides to do. He brought in Francona, and the right group of players to Boston and harvested two World Series championships. The man can do no wrong in my eyes. This season humbled the Red Sox fan base that were suddenly accustomed to winning, but for us old timers, it was something we had seen time and time again. Now we can say that the circle is complete.



Since: Oct 15, 2006
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:39 am
 

Report: Epstein '50-50' on leaving Red Sox

This is a joke and actually pisses me off on how people think this guy is good as a GM when he has the second most money to spend in baseball. If he cant buy and win in Boston then he will fail in Chicago. Cashman is the same way.  These clowns should win every year but they dont and every1 sez how smart they r.  Joe Giradi is the same way and so is Francona.  All loosers..   Why would u hire 1 of these guys if they cant win with 200 million?


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