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Johnson won't start again in 2011, Hanley update

Posted on: September 1, 2011 7:31 pm
By Matt Snyder

Marlins ace pitcher Josh Johnson won't start again the rest of the season, though he's going to throw from the mound at least a few times the rest of the way, even if it's only simulated action.

“He is just getting on the mound now, and he has 27 days to get all the way ramped up," Marlins president Larry Beinfest said (Fish Tank blog). "We just want to get him on the mound, even if it’s simulated in Jupiter and just have him feel good and tell us that he feels good ... "

“You rewind this whole thing we thought it was gonna be a two-week thing and that was four months ago.”

Yes, we're coming up on four months. Johnson last pitched on May 16. All you ever heard about a timetable when relating to Johnson's inflamed right shoulder was that there was no timetable -- but they'd know more in a few weeks. And things just kept lingering and lingering. Now, it appears he'll end the season with a 3-1 record and 1.64 ERA. It's too bad, as he looked to be in prime form to contend for a Cy Young award. Instead, he's a 27-year-old veteran who has only made 30 or more starts in a season one time. He's had Tommy John surgery and this now this inflammation issue.

The other man who was expected to be a face of the franchise as the Marlins finally moved into a baseball-only facility in 2012 is Hanley Ramirez, and his season is also in jeopardy.

The update for Thursday is that no structural damage was found in Ramirez's MRI, but it's unstable as it's fallen out of socket recently. Surgery is still a possibility and the recovery time from such a procedure would be anywhere from four to eight months.

“He’s not going to be activated Friday and we need to get it taken care of. Again, we will have more clarity this weekend exactly what that means," Beinfest said (Fish Tank blog).

Considering the Marlins are going nowhere in 2011, it seems like Ramirez should just get the surgery done as soon as possible.

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Posted on: September 1, 2011 10:26 pm

Johnson won't start again in 2011, Hanley update

Screw you Josh Johnson and the Florida Marlins medical staff for stringing me along all season.  What a waste of a 4th round pick in my fantasy baseball draft.  It was supposed to be 2 weeks!   What the F happened?

Since: May 14, 2007
Posted on: September 1, 2011 9:36 pm

Johnson won't start again in 2011, Hanley update

I'm a big Marlins fan. I just can't understand how this core of great young talent like pitcher Josh Johnson, Mike Stanton, Logan Morrison, Hanley Ramirez, and Chris Coghlan can ever smell the playoffs.

First, there's the injury prone ace Josh Johnson. So much talent and he cannot stay healthy. He had Tommy John surgery last year and with so many success stories of pitchers recovering and pitching efficiently after the surgery, there was optimism this would be the year for Johnson. And now a two week injury turns into a season ending condition. What's going on? How can you count on your ace if he can't stay healthy? Hanley starts to get his bat going and then hurts his shoulder. That can be a scary proposition for the face of the franchise at short stop.

Second, as long as the Fish stand pat and do not aggressively sign good veteran players, they will not compete with the Braves or Phillies for the National League East title. Throw away veterans like Mike Cameron, and Jose Lopez, who should be playing in AAA, should not be the answer when one of your front line starters goes down. This comes with scouting. There should be a good replacement somewhere in the minors that can contribute in a pinch because of injury. It's a contingency plan that great teams have in place before the season starts. This season with the internal turmoil and with the injuries, the Marlins have resembled a Triple A minor league squad, to say the least. 

Third, as the promise of substantial revenue increases with the new ball park set to open in early 2012, the Marlins need to develop more pitching  talent. The recent successes of position players like Morrison, Coghlan, and Stanton are offset by an utter lack of up and coming pitching prospects. Chris Volstad hasn't panned out. Out of the Marlin's 10 top prospects in the minors, only one pitcher stands out as a future big leaguer, LHP Chad James, still needs major seasoning before a call-up. RHP Brad Hand has been called up and is very inconsistent. Where the Braves have Venters with the rookie saves record, and the Phillies have Vance Worley who has a 10 game win streak and an ERA hovering around 2.50.  The Marlins cupboards are pretty bare.

Fourth, making a big splash in the offseason in free agency should be a major goal for the Marlin's brass. Prince Fielder is going to be 29 years old, still in his prime, and will make for a formidable teammate for fellow slugger Mike Stanton as he continues to get better in his second full season. The move would pay for itself in a couple of years as it would attract more free agents to play in a state of the art ballpark with some good young talent. Other concerns to be addressed should be starting pitching. Rangers' starter CJ Lewis will be available and could make a great 2nd or 3rd starter behind Johnson and Nolasco.

Fifth, the Marlins need to scout and draft more power pitchers to develop for the future. So far in the last few years, Marlins pitching prospects have shown little promise and potential. As the game evolves from slugging home runs to more of a pitching centered game, the development of pitching prospects is key.

I'm looking forward to going to watch games in the new Marlins Ballpark and I hope that the 2011-2012 Marlins will be challenging for a playoff spot with some great new free agent acquisitions and a healthy Josh Johnson and Hanley Ramirez.

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