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Francona ejected after reversed call

Posted on: August 14, 2011 12:54 am
Edited on: August 14, 2011 12:48 pm
 
Josh Bard

By C. Trent Rosecrans

Just because a player slides into home doesn't mean a nasty collision can't take place -- and one did in the fourth inning of Saturday's game between the Red Sox and Mariners. However, the only person out of the game after Josh Bard blocked the plate from Boston's Jacoby Ellsbury was Red Sox manager Terry Francona.

Francona was ejected because he argued home plate umpire Mark Ripperger decision to overturn his initial safe call and ruled Ellsbury out.

With one out in the top of the fourth, Ellsbury was on third when Dustin Pedroia flied out to right. Ellsbury tried to score on Ichiro Suzuki, who threw a one-hopper to Bard. The ball arrived at home well before Ellsbury, who slid into home, but got a knee into Bard's jaw.

It appeared that Bard lost control of the ball and Ripperger called Ellsbury safe. After the umpires conferred, Ellsbury was called out, ending the inning. That's when Francona argued more and was tossed. It was the 33rd time in his career he was ejected.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 1:11 pm
 

Francona ejected after reversed call

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Since: Aug 8, 2007
Posted on: August 14, 2011 12:50 pm
 

Francona ejected after reversed call

Ellsbury was out. But Francona may have had a good augruement. At live speed it appeared that the ball was loose for a moment on Bard's chest. It took three replays of the play for me to see the whole thing. But let's look closer at what happened. When Bard catches Ichiro's throw he lunges towards Ellsbury both hands together, ball in glove, exactly the way catchers are taught to make tags. But, as Bard reaches Ellsbury his hands become seperated. Bard's glove tags Ellsbury's lead leg but his other hand, the one holding the ball does not. This is known as an "empty glove tag" which equates to no tag. However, as is clearly shown in the picture above, Ellsbury's other leg not only slams into Bard's jaw but also catches the back of the hand holding the ball on his shin. Basically tagging himself out. Now because the homeplate umpire makes the initial call of safe, he had to have been looking at Bard's glove and when he did not see the ball in it made the call. If he had seen the ball in Bard's hand initially, then he never would have questioned whether the ball was loose or not. It also means that the homeplate umpire never saw the real tag. Do you follow what I'm saying here? Now part two is that, there is no way that any of the other umpires on the field were in a position to see any of this. Since as you have pointed out, there is no replay that the umpirering staff can review, what exactly did they base their reversal on? That is what I would think Francona was argueing about. That they were basically guessing when they overturned the initial call. They got the call right, but only by accident.

And I wouldn't worry to much about players and managers belittling umpires, MLB hands out fines and suspensions when they go over the line. Besides, quite often the umpire's will give it right back to them.



Since: Sep 21, 2010
Posted on: August 14, 2011 12:40 pm
 

Francona ejected after reversed call

This is a prime example of why baseball needs to use instant replay beyond HR reviews. Yes, it was the right call that it was an out. But how many times do they leave the wrong call stand? 99.9%!

Francona was right to come out cursing the umps. Period.



Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: August 14, 2011 12:31 pm
 

Report the facts correctly

Pedroia flied out to RIGHT! Ichiro always plays right field-I have never seen him in left. What an idiot,Rosencrans! How much baseball do you watch? It appears NONE!



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: August 14, 2011 6:06 am
 

Francona ejected after reversed call

Heck, I cannot figure out why he ever called him safe to begin with; the ball may have "moved in his hand as he went to the ground" but this isn't the NFL with all of its fine semantics on what's a catch and what isn't.  Bard held onto the ball; it never came out of his hand, it never hit the ground ... Ellsbury was as out as out can be.  At least that's what I saw.  

As for the ejection ... the number of ejections is stupid, but it's baseball's fault.  They refuse to implement any form of meaningful replay.  They refuse to restrain managers from belittling umpires.  They refuse to get rid of terrible umpires.  In this case, Francona is arguing when the umpire did exactly what all managers say they want umpires to do: confer, reconsider, and get the call right.  Why's he arguing? 


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