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Five recent bad or worthless deadline deals

Posted on: July 28, 2011 8:53 pm
Edited on: July 29, 2011 1:10 am

By Matt Snyder

We've all read the horror stories of botched trades, like when the Braves sent Elvis Andrus, Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison, Jarrod Saltalamacchia for a year of Mark Teixeira. And they didn't even make the playoffs. You could dip back to the Mariners sending the Red Sox Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek for Heathcliff Slocumb or the Tigers coughing up a minor leaguer named John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander, if you wish. Lists of such failures are everywhere, so we'll narrow the field to five trades in the past three years and make it the last week before the non-waiver trade deadline, because that's where we are now. Here are five that, at this point, appear either worthless or bad for the "buyer" in the deal.

July 31, 2008: Yankees acquired outfielder Xavier Nady and pitcher Damaso Marte from the Pittsburgh Pirates for outfielder Jose Tabata and pitchers Daniel McCutchen, Jeff Karstens and Ross Ohlendorf

This was the only season since the strike that the Yankees didn't make the playoffs. Marte was bad out of the bullpen the remainder of the season and Nady wasn't much of a difference maker. In the deal, general manager Brian Cashman coughed up three players would could have been of some use either this season or in a better trade. Tabata's only 22 and has a .351 on-base percentage with 14 steals as the Pirates' left fielder (though he's presently on the DL). That's great potential from the leadoff spot. The Yankees don't need a starter in the outfield right now, but, again, Tabata could have been part of a trade for something better than the Nady/Marte combo. As for the pitching ...

McCutchen has a 2.21 ERA in 57 innings out of the Pirates' bullpen. Had the Yankees kept and developed him, he'd have come in handy this year as Rafael Soriano and Joba Chamberlain fell injured. Maybe it would have prevented the huge contract to Soriano, too. Also, Jeff Karstens has a 2.41 ERA and 1.07 WHIP in 119 2/3 innings. And the Yankees are looking for pitching help.

You can't win them all, and this is one the Yankees definitely didn't win.

July 29, 2009: Pirates trade RHP Ian Snell and SS Jack Wilson to Mariners for IF Ronny Cedeno and minor leaguers C/1B Jeff Clement, RHP Ben Pribanic, RHP Brett Lorin and RHP Nathan Adcock

File this debacle as worthless for both sides. The Mariners finished 12 games back in the AL West and 10 games out of the Wild Card. Wilson hit .224 with an abysmal .562 OPS the rest of the way and Snell was merely decent, at best (4.20 ERA, 1.56 WHIP). Wilson hasn't gotten any better while Snell was horrible in 2010 and is now retired. Meanwhile, nothing the Mariners sent back to the Pirates should be cause for regret. Clement was actually the linchpin of the move, but he's been a bust. It's just a seven-player deal that has had no impact on any pennant races.

July 31, 2009: Padres trade RHP Jake Peavy to the White Sox for LHP Clayton Richard, LHP Aaron Poreda and minor league RHP Dexter Carter and RHP Adam Russell

Peavy was actually a stud for three starts once he returned from injury in September, but the White Sox were already out of the race. Since then, he's been unable to stay healthy or consistent. He's still only 30, so there's time to turn this thing around and make it a good deal for the White Sox. His injury history says it's unlikely he'll ever be an ace for a full season again. Fortunately for the White Sox, Clayton Richard (5-9, 3.88) is the only thing of true substance the White Sox actually gave up. This is the most likely trade on this list that could be removed in due time.

July 31, 2009: Mariners trade LHP Jarrod Washburn to Tigers for LHP Luke French and minor league LHP Mauricio Robles

Washburn was brought over to solidify the Tigers' rotation in a playoff push. Instead, he may have cost them the playoffs. He went 1-3 with a 7.33 ERA and retired after the season. The Tigers ended up losing the AL Central to the Twins by a single game. Neither player the Tigers shipped to the Mariners has amounted to much, but does it matter? Acquiring Washburn ended up being self-sabotage.

July 31, 2010: Los Angeles Dodgers acquired RHP Octavio Dotel from Pittsburgh for RHP James McDonald and OF Andrew Lambo.

Looking to bolster their bullpen in hopes of making the NLCS for the third straight season, the Dodgers acquired a pitcher who wasn't even throwing well -- Dotel had a 4.28 ERA and 1.30 WHIP for the Pirates before the trade. The Dodgers ended up finishing fourth in the NL West and trading Dotel again before the season ended. McDonald, 26, is coming into his own for the Pirates this year, too. His numbers don't look awesome on the whole (7-4, 3.95 ERA, 1.54 WHIP), but he's been developing nicely. In his last 12 starts, he's 5-1 with a 2.62 ERA He would like nice in the Dodgers rotation somewhere behind Clayton Kershaw and Chad Billingsley for the next several years. Instead they got some decent work out of Dotel for less than two months.

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Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: July 30, 2011 8:40 am

Five recent bad or worthless deadline deals

Hooray for the Pirates, but before the sheep in the media exhaust the story...just realize how bad the whole NL Central is.  The Asstros have just donated their only good player for what???  At least get Dom Brown, Mayberry Jr. or someone on the roster. You deserve to power suck Astros. Brad Mills the Boston genius, enjoy that roster of crap. 

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: July 30, 2011 2:07 am

Five recent bad or worthless deadline deals

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Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2011 4:34 pm

Five recent bad or worthless deadline deals

they traded Freddy Sanchez and Mike Gonzalez to the Pirates for Jeff Suppan, Scott Sauerbeck, and Anastacio Martinez.

That's not exactly the whole story behind that deal.  Originally the Red Sox traded Brandon Lyon & Martinez for Gonzalez & Sauerbeck.  It later turned out that Lyon had a shoulder injury so the teams basically reworked the trade so that they sent Freddy Sanchez for Sauerbeck & Suppan.

Since: Jan 2, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2011 6:05 am

Five recent bad or worthless deadline deals

The Pirates - Mariners trade was not worthless for the Pirates, and Clement wasn't the linchpin of the deal.  Though he's below league average, Cedeno is an adequate shortstop.  Also, Jack Wilson was a fan favorite and Pirates management was under heavy pressure to sign Wilson to a long term deal.  It was a huge win for Pittsburgh merely by making the right decision and trading him rather than getting stuck with a long-term deal for a player past his prime.  The Pirates were also desparate to start rebuilding a very poor minor league system.  Lorin and Pribanic are marginal prospects with a chance to make the majors.

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: July 28, 2011 11:48 pm

Five recent bad or wortless deadline deals

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Since: Feb 13, 2011
Posted on: July 28, 2011 11:27 pm

Five recent bad or wortless deadline deals

Although this one is from 2004, it is still worth mentioning as it should make all Mets fans like myself sick to our stomachs.  Here is a piece of a story from Mets360,com that was written by Brian Joura last year.

It details parts of the dreaded Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trade and adds in this little tidbit:


...Although everyone focuses on Kazmir, the Mets pulled off other deals on that day, too.  They also acquired Kris Benson and Jeff Keppinger in exchange for Matt Peterson, Ty Wigginton and Justin Huber.  At the time, most people were upset with giving up Wigginton but I was dismayed that they gave away Huber, who was a catcher in the minors who was just promoted to Triple-A after putting up a .901 OPS as a 21-year old in Double-A.

But the Pirates did not want Huber.  So the Mets had to go out and get someone else to complete the deal.  New York sent Huber to the Kansas City Royals for the player the Pirates wanted – Jose Bautista.

Since: Jul 27, 2009
Posted on: July 28, 2011 11:17 pm

Five recent bad or wortless deadline deals

This one isn't as recent, but as a Red Sox fan, one bad one that stands out happened in 2003 - they traded Freddy Sanchez and Mike Gonzalez to the Pirates for Jeff Suppan, Scott Sauerbeck, and Anastacio Martinez.  Suppan was supposed to solidify the rotation, but he was a bum just like his first time around with the Sox; Sauerbeck was supposed to be nasty against lefthanded batters, but couldn't throw a strike; and Martinez was minor league material.  Sanchez went on to win the batting title two years later and Gonzalez has had a decent career as a setup man.

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