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Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Posted on: July 18, 2011 12:57 pm
Edited on: July 18, 2011 2:39 pm
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By Matt Snyder

As the Ubaldo Jimenez speculation fire continues to burn, we now have our next hot trade rumor: The Pirates have scouted Hunter Pence (PittsburghLive.com). Pence is hitting .321 with 11 homers, 61 RBI and an .852 OPS. He also has a great throwing arm, as we saw in the All-Star Game.

Now, just as with the Jimenez talk, let's not get carried away here. Scouting a player doesn't mean the teams have exchanged names or will ever talk about a trade. It's just the first of many steps. Still, this could make sense for both teams.

The best argument for the Astros to keep Pence is that they need to rebuild around someone and he's their obvious best player. You can say he's young, but he's 28. The Astros aren't anywhere near contention, so he could be 31 (or older) before they're ready to make a run at the NL Central again. Why not deal him and get a big prospect package back? I feel like that would make more sense, because the likes of Carlos Lee and Brett Myers aren't landing much in return at this point. Pence and Wandy Rodriguez are the ones who need to be moved in an effort to start the rebuilding process.

As for the Pirates, first of all, it's pretty cool to see them as buyers. Variety can be good and the Pirates fans have suffered for quite a while. But let's talk baseball.

There are more pressing needs than right field for the Pirates. Shortstop and third base are weak -- unless Pedro Alvarez all of a sudden is promoted and explodes -- and Lyle Overbay could be upgraded at first. A catcher upgrade would help, though there aren't really many, if any, good ones available. Some extra help in middle relief couldn't hurt either. But if the Pirates could get a star like Pence, it would enable them to move Garrett Jones to first and it does strengthen the lineup as a whole in a pretty big way. Plus, Pence still has a decent chunk of his prime left and the Pirates' cornerstones would be a duo of outfield stars with Pence and Andrew McCutchen.

So, yes, this feels like a move that could benefit both teams, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen or is in the works. Just a rumor, for now.

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hotmeuly
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Posted on: December 21, 2011 5:38 pm
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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 12:36 am
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Now i obviously loved reading them put up. Great performance simply grade overview!



Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: July 20, 2011 10:42 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

It would take Much more then a slumping Pedro Alvarez to land Longoria. They woul have to give up at least 2 more of their top 10 minor league players to land Evan.



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: July 20, 2011 7:18 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

And I assume the nastiest city in the country would be Boston...could hardly call Portland Maine a real city.  One good reason for Pence to be happy in the Burgh would be PNC Park, the best stadium in the majors.



Since: Jun 30, 2011
Posted on: July 19, 2011 3:13 pm
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Nice post, lukencool2010!  Way better than a lot of these that are talking about whether Pence would make the Pirates better.  Obviously, he would.  But setting out a reasonable trade puts some meat on the bones, and starts to make sense of what the Bucs need to do.



Since: Apr 14, 2010
Posted on: July 19, 2011 10:56 am
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Pedro Alvarez (plus more)  for Evan Longoria
The Rays are coming up short this season, thus it is not their year.
Longoria is the player the Pirates need.
Alvarez is expendable at this point. 



Since: Apr 14, 2010
Posted on: July 19, 2011 10:42 am
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

The Pirates have by far the best era stats among the Central contenders.
Just check out the stats for each of these teams thus far. 



Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: July 19, 2011 1:02 am
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

Look guys, for those of you saying there are more "pressing needs" for the Pirates you are being short sighted and are trying way too hard to sound smarter than you really are.
And for those with a different opinion, you are being short sighted and are trying way too hard to be a condescending a$$.

It's funny how when someone has a different opinion they're "trying to be too smart for their own good".  Sounds like someone grew up with smarter kids all around him and developed a helluva complex.



Since: Mar 6, 2007
Posted on: July 19, 2011 12:41 am
 

Pence to Pirates is hot new trade rumor

I would really like to see this trade happen. The Pirates need a hitter badly to help them keep this division in their mits and Pence is a perfect fit. Teams are always going to have weaknesses but there's nothing wrong with having a strength. I guess we'd have to see the trade itself to know if it's really worth it but the idea of him on the team is definitely a plus. Lets see the Pirates get someone to keep up with whatever the Brewers may do.


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