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Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

Posted on: July 17, 2011 10:26 pm
Edited on: July 18, 2011 5:45 am
Joe MaddonBy C. Trent Rosecrans

There are many reasons I like Tampa Bay's Joe Maddon and think he's one of the absolute best managers in the game -- but two of the biggest are his original thinking and his willingness to speak his mind, even if it's a little controversial.

Sunday he was asked about the accusations by the Yankees that the Blue Jays are stealing signs. Maddon said he was all for "traditional sign stealing."

From the St. Petersburg Times:

"I'm all for stealing a third-base coach's signs or if a manager is not hiding his signs to whomever or if a catcher goes out, whatever, those signs are there to be stolen," Maddon said. "That's part of the game. Utiliziing technology to do that I think is inappropriate. … That's bad form, I don't agree with that. I love a good sign-stealer, that's my kind of guy. … The other stuff is purely cheating and definitely does not have a part in the game."

One of the many beauties of baseball is the fine line between gamesmanship and cheating -- and Maddon's right, sign stealing can be on either side. For the record, Maddon said he didn't think the Jays were using binoculars or electronic devices to steal signs -- "We have not thought [that] this year," Maddon said.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 21, 2011 7:24 pm
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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 2:24 am

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

Happy i personally stubled on to this specific spectacular online site, may well be selected restore the following so we could head over to in many instances.

Since: Dec 12, 2008
Posted on: October 1, 2011 12:22 pm

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

sign stealing with equipment is part of baseball too. Its common in the big leagues, and of course it would be with millions of dollars on the line every game. Besides where do you draw the line? So a manager's glasses aren't technology? Outside help? What about the GM and scouts? Let's not make this the NFL.

Since: Jun 17, 2008
Posted on: July 18, 2011 1:44 pm

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

Maddon is dead on.  Sign stealing without equipment is part of baseball. The Yankees bitching about it is just the way they chose to call them out on it and now they will play tit for tat so what.  Mind games back and forth are a huge part of baseball it is a mental game.  Perfect example is June 2003 the Red Sox scored 14 runs in the 1st against the Marlins and won going away.  McKeon complained saying he felt Little ran it up on him.  The next game the sox were up by like 7 or 8 runs and Little called off the dogs and the Marlind came back and won.  The Marlind went on to win the World Series.  You have to try for an advantage anyway you can whether it is doing something or complaining about something.

Since: Jul 12, 2011
Posted on: July 18, 2011 1:32 pm

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

It is part of the game. When the Yankees lose more than 1 game in a row, they get all butthurt and make up poor excuses. Stealing signs is just another part of the game that makes it exciting.

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: July 18, 2011 2:57 am

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

Now you're just getting ticky tack because the guy misspelled Maddon's name.
You know who he meant, so he spelled it with an "E" rather than an "O" big deal, at least he didn't say John Madden, THAT is not only getting the whole name wrong but it's also the wrong sport.

Since: Jul 13, 2011
Posted on: July 18, 2011 1:45 am

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

as a sox fan...joe madden is the best manager in the game.
Sounds great, maybe you or viking bob can tell me who Joe Madden coaches. Laughing

Since: Mar 17, 2011
Posted on: July 18, 2011 1:37 am

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

The Yankees have a lot more complaining  to do if they want to reach the whining level of the Cardinals.

Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: July 18, 2011 1:19 am

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

  I love this, because if it wasn't ok to steal signs, why would they use them in the first place.  Stealing signs is not cheating, it is part of the game.  This means that it is done in the right way, and not cameras in left field.  Stealing signs, catchers blocking the plate, sliding at the second baseman to break up a double play, are all great parts of this game.  Don't change anything, if someone doesn't like sign stealing, or a player gets hurt in a home plate collision, because thats the game.   Joe Madden is a great manager with the right attitude for the game of baseball!

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: July 18, 2011 1:10 am

Rays' Maddon fine with sign stealing

As much as I hate watching sox vs. rays games in St. Pete because it sounds like a pee-wee league football game in that dome (all the annoying noise makers and cowbells) I do respect Joe Maddon.  Maddon was the right choice to lead the formerly helpless Rays who had a lot of young talent on the roster but nobody to utilize it properly.  I also like Maddon's passion and his honest quotes - what he said about sign stealing is right - everybody does it but they don't steal signs by placing people in the stands or using video recorders.  That said, that may be the only way the Blue Jays can win games unless Batista keeps slamming home runs. 

In parting - I think that Maddon may be the best manager in the game who always has his team ready to play even when he barely has enough talent to fill all of the roster spots; he also seems to be able to get a sub-par or rookie player to play at a level that far exceeds his god given abilities.  I think the key to Maddon's success is what he learned with Anaheim as the bench coach - focus on the little things and the fundamentals of baseball which are often overlooked and just "assumed" to always be professional but I think that those fundamentals are only practiced in spring training but I hear that Maddon has his guys working on fundamentals all season long - that says a lot about the man and his team.  I guess a good example would be to say that Maddon has been given a roster made up of flank steak and brisket but he gets his team to play at prime rib level and during the world series season he got them to play at the filet mignon level.  Wow - I just found a way to relate baseball and food - I don't think that's been done since David Wells was pitching. 

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