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Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

Posted on: June 16, 2011 12:45 am
Edited on: June 16, 2011 9:20 am
 
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By C. Trent Rosecrans

The Pirates are lobbying to be realigned, but only into a different division, not a different league.

Pittsburgh would like to be part of the National League East, Pirates president Frank Coonelly tells Joe Starkey of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

"I have made some points to [MLB]," Coonelly told Starkey. "I wouldn't over-read it to suggest I'm getting traction yet. While the [collective bargaining agreement] discussions are ongoing, I'm letting them know where we stand."

Still, the Pirates do not want to move to the American League.

"We like it in the National League," Coonelly said. "We have a long history there."

Technically speaking, Pittsburgh is farther east than Atlanta and slightly more so than Miami, and the closest National League park to Atlanta's Turner Field is Cincinnati's Great American Ball Park.

Still, there doesn't seem to be an overwhelming reason to move the Pirates to the NL East without a massive reorganization of the divisions.

Starkey suggests in his column the Pirates move to the American League Central, setting up a rivalry with Cleveland and Detroit, while moving Kansas City to the AL West.

I don't really see either happening. Even if realignment happens, don't expect the Pirates to be movng anywhere. 

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hotmeuly
Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 22, 2011 10:45 am
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Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: June 27, 2011 7:31 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

The Seahawks are an anomoly, yes bad teams make the playoffs, it happens all the time.  The NBA is a perfect example, only because they let 16 teams into the playoffs.  With baseball, a team going 80-82 for a season and winning the division is highly unlikely due to the fact that they play 162 games, allowing for ups and downs in the season.  That and the simple fact that even the greatest teams in baseball lose 50-60 games a year, a playoff team with a losing record is highly unlikely (unless MLB opens the field for more teams in the playoffs).  With football, there are teams every year that lose 3 or fewer games, making wins a tough commodity for the second and third tier teams.  Looking at the standings in baseball right now, every division has at least 2 teams at or above .500 with the worst division being the AL West where Seatlle sits right at .500 in second place.  As long as MLB spreads the talent out equally and doesn't keep teams like NY, BOS, TB and TOR bunched together, the divisions will have teams with winning records every year. 

Spreading out the divisions to 4 in each league (with 2 expansion teams) would be fair, but ultimately, moving a team from the NL Central to the AL West makes the most sense seeing that talent is already spread thin, and grouped towards the rich, another 2 teams with owners more set on making money than winning will just reduce the quality of games, not make the league any better.




Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2011 3:10 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

excuse me meant  76 reds  greatest team of ALL TIME  but you can go ahead and mark down the 75 reds right under them.  Cool




Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2011 3:07 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

Go Reds????  They win the division one time in 15 years and it's Go Reds???? The Reds and Pirates have been getting "whipped" as you so put it together...Last season was a fluke...which is why the Reds are right where they belong now...in the middle of the division.  Find a team worth rooting for.
First off last year was no fluke chump. The reds are going to win the NL central again and votto is going to go back to back MVP.  Your cards are cabbage and poo holes sucks and cant play 3rd base worth a damn.  That was so funny trying to watch him play 3rd and have like 400 errors in one game, what a joke. Lastly, the reds as a program overshadows the cards so much its not even funny. Ever heard of the big red machine? 75 reds, probably the best team of ALL TIME. OWNED...



Since: Oct 24, 2006
Posted on: June 16, 2011 11:47 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

niklah9 -

I don't think you want 4 divisions for the exact reason of what happened last year in the NFL...a team won the division with a losing record and made the playoffs.  That seems pretty unlikely with 3 divisions and has never happened in baseball.  4 divisions makes it more likely.

As for the "natural rivalry" (that someone else dismissed) the point is that they are NOT in the same city.  In the same city it is "nonsense" to have the teams in the same league and/or conference.  The Yankees biggest rival is the Red Sox, not the Mets.  The Cubs' rival is the Cardinals not the White Sox, etc.  That's the whole point...neither the Astros nor the Rangers have a true rival, putting them in the same division and league makes it more interesting for the entire state of Texas.  The whole point of this exercise by MLB is to increase the popularity of the sport.   Period. 





Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: June 16, 2011 8:42 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

The idea to move them to the NL East is actually a great idea...Then put Atlanta in the Central and we have an interesting central division...I will leave the whole moving a team to the AL up to the pros, because I wouldn't be able to choose who to send.  My gut would be to go with Cincy...that way these false Reds fans can see how bad they really are :)



Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: June 16, 2011 8:35 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

The Nationals are not an expansion team...They are the former Montreal Expos...SAME franchise, different name and city.  And your realignment idea makes no sense whatsoever.  Sure you are a true fan who "knows" what they are talkin bout ?



Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: June 16, 2011 8:31 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

That would make more sense if the Dodgers could do what the Angels have done in the last 20 years...Win a title.  Hey, there is an idea...win a title and THEN talk trash ;)



Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: June 16, 2011 8:29 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

Go Reds????  They win the division one time in 15 years and it's Go Reds???? The Reds and Pirates have been getting "whipped" as you so put it together...Last season was a fluke...which is why the Reds are right where they belong now...in the middle of the division.  Find a team worth rooting for.



Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2011 7:12 pm
 

Pirates want to switch divisions, not leagues

Tired of being the whipping boy of the NL central eh?    go reds!!


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