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Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

Posted on: June 4, 2011 1:41 pm
Edited on: June 4, 2011 1:45 pm
 
By C. Trent Rosecrans

So, I guess it's about time for the day's Buster Posey update -- I'll resist a "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" joke -- and this one is from Joe Torre, MLB's executive vice president of baseball operations.

Joe TorreTorre, a former catcher, says it's unlikely baseball will change any of its rules as a result of Posey's injury.

"I think it's safe to say that I don't anticipate any changes, but I'm willing to listen," Torre told MLB.com.

Torre said he's talked to Giants general manager Brian Sabean and manager Bruce Bochy about the play on May 25.

Torre said he didn't see anything dirty about the play and didn't believe Scott Cousins was trying to hurt Posey.

"I spoke to Brian Sabean [Friday] and Bochy [Thursday], and I told them I'd be willing to sit with them and whoever they want to invite to discuss it," Torre said. "I told them that I didn't see anything that had to be changed, but I certainly would be open to listening to them. I think they just what discussion."

Another former catcher spoke up on the play, as perhaps the best catcher ever, Johnny Bench, told the Tulsa World that Posey "put himself in such a bad position" on the play.

"I teach my kids to stay away from the plate when you don't have the ball so the runner actually sees home plate and his thought is, 'slide,'" Bench told the newspaper. "But Buster is laying in front of home plate, and it's like having a disabled car in the middle of a four-leaf highway. You're just going to get smacked. Show them the plate. You can always catch the ball and step, or step and catch the ball, as long as you've got the runner on the ground. And if you have the runner on the ground, there's less of a chance of any severe collision."

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 3:11 am
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 12:01 am
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

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Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: June 5, 2011 2:52 pm
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

After Brandon Belt was struck by a pitch, I overheard Brian Sabean ask MLB Officials to start using tennis balls.



Since: Jul 25, 2008
Posted on: June 5, 2011 2:42 pm
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

sf giants r cry babys. collision at home plate is part of baseball rules and it is legal. injury is part of all sports. have good back-ups at all position on your team ready. NEXT MAN UP PLEASE! STOP CRY LIL B*TCHES!



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: June 5, 2011 1:57 pm
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

Now we question the greatest defensive catcher of all time.  Who's brain dead???  Pretty obvious to me.  Have you even played baseball before?



Since: Apr 10, 2011
Posted on: June 5, 2011 1:15 pm
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

There have been so many players that have gotten hurt as a result of collisions from the plate over the history of baseball. I haven't heard their coaches or general managers get in an uproar like this. Why? Because it's a part of baseball. It's funny how we tend to ignore all of this until a Superstar player finally gets hurt, and then everyone calls for a change to happen. All it takes is ONE thing to happen out of hundreds of other accidents for everyone to get in a tizzy. It's a shame it happened, but it's done, it's over, let's move on from this.



Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: June 5, 2011 12:49 pm
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

Maysman1 doesn't it bother you at all that you are such a tool? Take your head out of the sand and out of the Giants fans abyss and look at it the way it is. It was a bad break for the Giants and all of their fans and that is all. If the runner had got hurt or it was a player on another team you wouldn't give a rats you know what about it. Get over it. it was a baseball play that your guy screwed up on and got hurt. Real simple, see how that works? A bad break. it won't be the last one your team has this year either. Everything worked out for them last year and they won a world series when they were far from the best team. This year some bad breaks will come their way. That's the way of the world pal. Stop crying like an old women and move on.



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: June 5, 2011 10:59 am
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

I see nothing wrong with the play.  Posey and Cousins were both reacting instinctively.  It called hardball for a reason.  The injury is unfortunate, however, similar plays have happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future.  If Posey doesn't try to block the plate then find someone who will or if Cousins doesn't go in hard then find someone who will.  MLB players are playing the game at its' highest level.  The game's not broke.  I get irked when I see players not hustling.  



Since: Jun 17, 2008
Posted on: June 5, 2011 9:41 am
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

And thank you for that comment from Scott Cousins' agent. Who just signed up for a CBS account today.



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: June 5, 2011 3:16 am
 

Torre: Rule change on collisions unlikely

I've sat back and read various comments about the Posey situation and usually just shake my head about the absurdity of most of the posters, but I feel i finally need to add my two cents just in the hope that one person might not be swayed by the volumes of disinformation. First of all it's easy to see that many of the people expressing their opinions have never played baseball at any kind of a competitive level. Some of them will state that they played in high school or "for years", but by reading a few lines it's easy to tell what levels they really played at or how much they know about the game. PURE AND SIMPLE...Cousins did nothing wrong. Yes there was room to hook slide or try to sweep around the back side head first, but if Posey fields the ball cleanly, its almost certainly an out unless the runner can dislodge the ball....he was dead to rights if he makes the play. If you watch the play full speed (as in reality) it happens so fast that Cousins has no way of altering course even if he saw Posey drop the ball. Posey's body relaxes when he fails to field the throw and that probably has more to due with him getting injured than anything else. As far as other playes blocking the base...there is nothing wrong with any fielder blocking the bag in anticipation of a play at that base. YES, the first baseman can put his foot in the way when the runner is diving back. YES, the shortstop can stick his knee in front of the bag when a runner is trying to steal. In both cases, as long as there is a play being made at the bag, they can do that. They can't block bases for no reason, but if the throw is on the way there is no problem with doing that. The reason you don't see it often is because the MLB is now filled with multi-million dollar products instead of ball players. I've played every position in baseball (and now that I'm old, softball), and I've taken my knocks in both blocking bases and trying to get through them...It happens. If Posey makes the play and gets the out he probably doesn't get hurt. If Cousins tries to contort and get around the potential tag, maybe he hurts himself or misses the plate. The fact that it was the game winning run makes the whole thing even more acceptable. Posey is a ball player...sometimes they get injured...life goes on, even for him. If it was a star who ran over a second string mid-season call-up, there would never have been an issue. People need to calm down, do reasearch, and think before they opine. The play was legal, should stay legal, and was in no way cheap. the issue of whether Cousins could have avoided the collision is moot. If you think you stand a better chance of scoring by knocking the catcher on his ass and you are willing to absorb the hit yourself...more power to you. If you don't want to get your ass knocked over, get the blank out of the way (and I mean totally out of the way).  


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