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Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

Posted on: June 3, 2011 9:55 am
Edited on: June 3, 2011 10:40 am
 


By C. Trent Rosecrans
 

BASEBALL TODAY: CBSSports.com senior writer Danny Knobler joins Lauren Shehadi to discuss the chances of the Marlins, Brewers and Diamondbacks sticking around all season.

SABEAN OUT OF LINE: Buster Posey's injury is the story that just won't die -- and it flared up again on Thursday when Giants general manager Brian Sabean ripped Scott Cousins on a San Francisco radio station.

Sabean intimated there would be some sort of retaliation the next time the Giants saw the Marlins' Cousins. For a general manager to imply his team would be looking to hurt another player is irresponsible and reprehensible -- especially when Cousins played within the rules. You can bet Bud Selig will be making a call to Sabean and there will plenty of eyes on the Giants when they head to Florida Aug. 12-14.

Not only were Sabean's comments unprofessional, they're also hypocritical. Baseball Prospectus' Larry Granillo takes a look at Pablo Sandoval's similar play last season against the Pirates, and also a play from 2006 which was worse that happened to the Giants' Todd Greene, but caused no public outrage from Sabean.

Cousins' agent, Matt Sosnick, answered, saying his client has already gotten death threats, which probably won't be helped with Sabean flaming the fire. He also noted Cousins feels terrible about hurting Posey.

"The fact that Posey got hurt is terrible and everyone feels terribly about it," Sosnick told Andrew Baggerly of the San Jose Mercury News. "No one feels worse, outside of Posey, than Scott did. But it's over. The play was within the rules; it was a fair, legitimate play. There’s no way Scott could know in the heat of the moment if there was a sliding lane of not.

"It was legal in baseball. He helped his team. The fact someone got injured on the play stinks.

"I understand Sabean is upset about it. Based on the fact that I know he’s a good guy, I am really hoping that he was speaking in the heat of the moment and out of emotion. Because if he wasn't, he took a bad situation and certainly made it a lot worse."

WEBB SHUT DOWN: Rangers pitcher Brandon Webb felt discomfort in his right shoulder in a bullpen session on Thursday and is being shut down. He has been prescribed anti-inflammatories and will be shut down for a minimum of seven days. (MLB.com)

9 TEAMS VIOLATE DEBT RULES: We all knew the Dodgers and Mets were in financial trouble, but they're apparently not alone. According to a Los Angeles Times report, a total of nine of the 30 teams are in violation of the MLB debt service rules which limit team's debt levels to 10 times its annual earnings. The guilty teams are a mix of big and small market teams -- the Mets, Dodgers, Orioles, Cubs, Tigers, Marlins, Phillies, Rangers and Nationals.

DRAFT BONANZA: While the Rays may have more picks than anyone else in next week's draft, the Diamondbacks have the most valuable picks. In one of the deepest drafts in years, Arizona has a chance to pick up two impact players, drafting No. 3 and No. 7 overall. (Arizona Republic)

Yankees' MISSED OPPORTUNITY: UCLA right-hander Gerrit Cole may be the top pick (or at least in the top three) next week, but it won't be the first time he's drafted in the first round. The Yankees took him in 2008, but he decided to go to UCLA instead. (New York Daily News)

WRIGHT, WILPON OK: David Wright finally spoke to Mets owner (for now) Fred Wilpon and said "all is well." Wright is one of the players Wilpon criticized in a New Yorker article. (New York Post)

Things should continue to be good with Wright and Wilpon, because it's unlikely he's going anywhere. Earlier this week there were rumors Wright may be moved, but the New York Daily News reports Wright's option for 2013 is team-specific, meaning only the Mets could exercise it. Any other team would risk losing Wright to free agency following the 2012 season. Anyway, it doesn't make much sense to sell low on Wright right now anyway, so expect him to stay with the Mets.

JETER WATCH: Derek Jeter currently has 2,984 hits and he acknowledges he feels a bit of a "responsibility" to reach 3,000 at Yankee Stadium. At his current pace, he'd get hit 3,000 at Wrigley Field in Chicago against the Cubs on June 18. Oddly enough, another Yankee had a chance at a milestone at Wrigley Field recently -- Roger Clemens' third shot at his 300th win was at Wrigley Field in June, 2003, but he lost that game. He won in his next start -- at Yankee Stadium against the Cardinals. The Yankees have a 10-game homestead from June 7-16 before going to Chicago for three and Cincinnati for three, returning home on June 24. Selfishly, I'd love to see Jeter go for 3,000 in Cincinnati, just so I could see it in person. It'd be more fitting for him to get it in New York, though. (New York Daily News)

DISAPPOINTMENTS: What do Ubaldo Jimenez, Chris Carpenter, Adam Dunn, Albert Pujols and Carl Crawford have in common? Well, they're all rich. Besides that, they're also on SI.com's Joe Sheehan's All-Disappointment Team. I'd take all five of those guys in a heartbeat. They're a discappointment because they haven't lived up to their own high standards so far, all five have the ability to turn it around in a heartbeat.

GRITTY AND GUTTY: Sure, these gifts are a little too prized by old-timers and not prized enough by new-school thinkers. Whatever their worth, those kind of players are fun to watch -- and the Padres have one in Chris Denorfia. As a personal note, Denorfia is one of the really good guys in the game and I'm glad to see him doing well. (San Diego Tribune-Review)

HARPER SHINES, STRUGGLES: In one game, Bryce Harper showed exactly why he's too good for the South Atlantic League, but also not quite ready to be called up to the next level. In addition to a walk-off homer, Harper fell victim to the old fake-to-third-throw-to-first move and was also caught in a rundown. (Washington Post)

CURE FOR THE CURSE? The Cubs are 5-0 in throwback uniforms -- now if they'd just wear them all the time… (BleedCubbieBlue.com)

FOR THE SNEAKERHEADS: Move over Brian Wilson, Orioles pitcher Jeremy Guthrie has the coolest spikes on the planet. Guthrie has a pair of Air Jordan I spikes that are just plain awesome. (NikeBlog.com)

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Since: May 2, 2011
Posted on: June 3, 2011 6:46 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

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Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: June 3, 2011 6:07 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

Maybe when the runner sees the catcher blocking home plate he should just stop and say, "Excuse me, Mr. Catcher, but you're blocking my
base path."  Or maybe all catchers should follow Jorge Posada's example and never, ever block home plate?



Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: June 3, 2011 6:03 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

Why doesn't Sabean and the rest of the bleeding-heart baseball fans get over it? It's really quite simple. When a catcher with all his equipment is attempting to block the base path to home plate, there is no doubt he is asking for trouble and is going to be creamed by the baserunner. On all the other base paths if a defensive player attempts to block or impede the runner running to a base it is called interference. This is just part of the game. Do you expect the baserunner to stop short of home plate because the catcher is blocking
the runner? If the catcher want to do that, then he has to pay the piper!



Since: Jul 7, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2011 5:27 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

His comments were wrong but Sabean doesn't need to resign. Let's stop insisting people lose their jobs because of making a dumb comment.



Since: Jul 7, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2011 5:25 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

Maysman1,

That play was totally clean. I understand you are upset the Giants lost Posey but there was nothing dirty about that play. I hear players get critized all the time for not taking out the catcher. Cousins played it right my friend.



Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: June 3, 2011 4:31 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

Yes, Sabean's comments were "over the top", but at least he had the guts to say what every other GM in Baseball would like to have said, but didn't have the balls to do.  I cannot believe the amount of idiotic comments on this site about this being a legal play.
It may have been a "legal" play, but it was a DIRTY PLAY.  This is not about whining, or Posey being an up and coming young star, or about changing the rules.  The rules are fine just the way they are.  But I'm sick and tired of hearing moron sportswriters and TV "analysts" (like Skip Bayless on ESPN this morning) saying that "this is what kids are taught to do in Little League".  This is complerte BS!  I've played in Little League and coached in Little League.  What I was taught and have tried to teach other kids is "TO PLAY THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY"!

If you looked at the videos of this play, you would have to be blind not to see that Cousins had a clear path to home plate.  I'm not saying that he intentionally tried to hurt Posey - I'm sure that he didn't.  What he did was to make a STUPID, RECKLESS AND YES - DIRTY PLAY.
Cousin's lawyer said: The play was within the rules; it was a fair, legitimate play. There’s no way Scott could know in the heat of the moment if there was a sliding lane of not".

This is beyond stupid.  Is Cousins blind or just dumb???

I think that Sabean was trying to send a message, and I'm certain that 100% of the other GM's are glad that he did, either though they won't say so publicly.  Baseball doesn't need stupid reckless players who don't respect the way that the game should be played.




Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

Totally agree with you. It was a clean play and i have no sympathy for any catcher. i hate when catchers block the plate when im playing. if they dont want to get plowed over play the plate like the shortstop plays second base on a steal. its the catcher with all the protective equipment on but just happened the catcher got hurt this time, normally its the runner (Josh Hamilton). i do play catcher also and the one thing i think should be a rule is if the catcher has the ball you shouldnt be able to run into him. if he clearly has the ball ahead of you and he then puts his shoulder down you should be out and fined. but in the same sense the catcher shoudnt block the plate. i dont block the plate and i am 250lbs. i dont want to get hurt but i still have had collisions because ihave gotten the relay way be fore the runner and they have decided to run me over. but again i am 250lbs they namrally dont lose but in this case buster did.



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: June 3, 2011 12:33 pm
 

Pepper: Sabean over the top in his comments

It was a clean play, nothing outside the lines.

Question Though: All the years of watching baseball.... when is it ok to block the plate?  I understand bang bang plays.  But, e.g. The runner is just feet away, but the ball is still at the relay point when is it acceptable and not?  Does the runner have to plow through or go around at that point?   Going back to H.S. days, I don't remember anyone fully explaining that one.....


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