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Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

Posted on: June 2, 2011 8:14 pm
Edited on: June 3, 2011 10:51 am

By Evan Brunell

Giants GM Brian Sabean hit the KNBR airwaves Wednesday and had choice words for Scott Cousins, who was responsible for ending Buster Posey's season, the San Jose Mercury News reports.

"If I never hear from Cousins again or he never plays another game in the big leagues, I think we’ll all be happy," Sabean said, calling Cousins' actions "malicious" and adding that he doesn't blame Posey for refusing to return Cousins' phone calls, as the Marlins outfielder has attempted to apologize. The 27-year-old barrelled into Posey on May 25, scoring the eventual winning run in the top of the 12th inning. Cousins had a fairly clear path to the plate, with Posey in front of the dish attempting to field a relay. Cousins chose to barrell into Posey rather than slide on the far end of the plate, causing a broken leg for the Giants' star player.

“In no way, shape or form was he blocking the plate,” Sabean said. “He was just reacting to the throw and trying to get back to make a tag. So [it’s] unfortunate. It’s one of those things that happens to your family. Until it happens to you and hits home, maybe it’s not as real what we’re going through.

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“If you listen to [Cousin's] comments after the fact, he pretty much decided -- and it was premeditated -- that, if he got a chance, he was going to blow up the catcher to dislodge the ball,” Sabean said. “And if you watch frame by frame from different angles, he does not take the path to the plate to try to score. He goes after Buster, right shoulder on right shoulder, and to me, that’s malicious.”

Aren't those words harsh?

“Well, no,” added Sabean, intimating that Cousins better be careful the next time Florida plays the Giants. “He chose to be a hero in my mind, and if that’s his flash of fame, that’s as good as it’s going to get, pal. We’ll have a long memory. Believe me, we’ve talked to [former catcher Mike] Matheny about how this game works. You can’t be that out-and-out overly aggressive. I’ll put it as politically as I can state it: There’s no love lost and there shouldn’t be.”

The Marlins will host the Giants on August 12-14 in what will be the team's final matchup of the season. It's possible Cousins won't be around for that, however, as he's hitting .159/.245/.250 in 39 games and has generally been used as a pinch-hitter and defensive replacement.

These are strong words by Sabean, but it's hard to blame him. Posey was a crucial part of the Giants' club, had led the team to a World Series victory last season and was in his second season of what appeared to be a promising career. Now, Posey may never catch again.

“That’s going to be up to Buster once he comes through this,” Sabean said of Posey's future as a catcher. “I know he wants to catch. I know this is a horrific experience for him. He’s in a lot of pain right now. It’s psychologically difficult for him to rationalize this, so that decision is way up the line. But he’s a warrior and if he wants to catch the position then I’m sure he’ll come to camp next spring as a catcher.”

If so, it's likely that Posey will stop blocking the plate the way he had been. His accident has caused many around the game to evaluate expectations of catchers. While no other position player or even pitcher is expected to put himself in harm's way like catchers, backstops have had to deal with the belief around baseball that catchers need to block the plate and absorb collisions to earn respect from players. Teams over the years have attempted to change this, and manager Bruce Bochy even told Posey not to block the plate in spring training, but all too often, it takes an unfortunate incident like this to spur change and shake up the macho culture that pervades sports.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 3:31 am

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 3:28 am

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

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Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: June 4, 2011 2:43 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

 saw that all-star game on TV back in the 70's. It was a much more butal hit than the one on Posey.After all it was Pete Rose, who always sprinted to first on a walk.He may be banned frpm baseball(Ridiculous), but he he's the only player with over 4000 hits.Pete played at 110% every inning of every game.They didn't call him  Charlie Hustle for nothing.......Ray Fosse was one of the best catchers in the league, hence he was voted to be in the all-star game.He knew who was barralling down on him & he stood his ground;Didn't move an inch until Pete Rosa hit him square & darned near hard enough to send him back to Cleveland.Both of them played it like it was game 7 of the W.S. When the dust cleared only one of them still had a career. Fosse was a great young catcher with a promising future ahead of him.After that hit he was never the same & he retired a couple years later.These guys made a timy fraction of what todays players


I have posted 7 times in this thread.  I have emphatically stated that cousins' actions were clean.  Giants fans are reacting emotionally.  Now that Pete Rose has been brought up I want to chime in again.  I have cincinnati ties, am a Red's fan, and I love Rose's focus, hustle reputation, and of course 4256 hits, but I have mixed opinions on that play with fosse.  No he didn't leave his feet, yes it was clean, and yes it was legal, but I am not so sure that an all star game is important enough for that.  then again fosse completely blocked the plate which in itself is a form of agression.  I dont know.  that's why I say mixed opinions. There are so many angles to consider it by.  I wouldn't go nearly so far as freespirited (can't you just picture this fairy in a tie die shirt out playing ultimate frisbee?) who said it was "the worst thing ever."  that's ridiculous.   but i am not sure either, given fosse's injury, that we want to trumpet or celebrate that play as a great example of hustle.  just sayin'

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: June 4, 2011 12:17 am

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

P. S. to Midgets4Ever (okay, he actually calls himself Giants4Ever): It's not only posters like me who are saying Posey mis-positioned himself by being on his knees: See, e.g., today's article "Sabean is emotional . . .",  where the author, without any prompting from us, remarked, "One reason Posey was hurt was that he put himself in the worst possible position -- on his knees." 
So, Midgets4Ever, if you think I was wrong, say so and say why .

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2011 11:46 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

Slight correction to my last post: quite a few pages back I did make a brief mention of the Rose/Fosse collision, but the only thing I said about it was that it was in the days when the All-Star Game was played to win; what part of that could you think was made up, ezmover?  And do you think any footage of it would disprove my remark?  I've seen the footage of it plenty of times, and obviously it lends support to my statement, if anything.

Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2011 11:22 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

Argo, you should try & take a look at that footage.It beats making stuff up . . .
Making what stuff up, ezmover (4:09 p.m.)?  About the Rose/Fosse collision, which is what the rest of your post is about and which I never even mentioned?  Something about the Cousins/Posey collision?  Care to be more specific?  Or can't you be?  No one else here seems to have had any issue with any factual statement I made; why do you? 
As they say, put up or shut up.

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2011 8:48 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

he heart of the issue is that the catcher is the only one that's allowed to block a base without the ball; anywhere else and it's interference.  Change that, and the catchers are out of harm's way.

youre an idiot too....its ilegal to block the plate without the ball...go look in a rulebook before giving us your interpretation

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2011 8:35 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

BUCCS469, think for a second.  People can macho this issue to death if they want to, and, admittedly,it's not a completely cut and dried thing, but kids watch what they see professional athletes do on the field and copy them.  If YOU have kids...and from your comment it seems like you would never want to see yours on the receiving end of one of these hits.  If there's a persuasive argument that the rules should be changed to address home plate collisions that are calculated only to dislodge the ball from the catcher's mitt, and that the rule against catcher's blocking the plate if they don't already control the ball be enforced, it's that nobody wants to see 8, 9 and 10 year old kids blowing up other 8, 9 and 10 year olds at home plate because they think it's the right thing to do from watching the pros on TV

i do have kids and my son plays baseball.....and if he was on his knees blocking home plate and got freight trained he would learn a valuable albeit painfull leasson....its people like you that are turning this country into a bunch of pussies really...if youve ever been to a little league field or played for that matter you would know that its against the rules at that level.....but when you get to be a big boy its not...nobody forced posey to play a game that coule cause significant injury....and he was well aware of the risks that come with his chosen postion....this society has become a blame someone else for there mistake...its not my fault wasteland...was it unfortunate he got hurt....yup....while were at it we should also ban the following...foul balls hit into the stands...very dangerous and should be an immediate ejection...also sliding is inherantly could see a player on tv slide and then hurt themselves while trying to imitate them.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2011 5:16 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

I don't care how large your type is, Posey put himself in that situation & like about 10 others have said---All he had to do was move.He didn't & now he pays the price.As far as this issue goes. Posey doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2011 5:07 pm

Sabean rips into Cousins for ending Posey's year

I chuckle everytime someone points out how Kendry Morales broke gis ancleStomping on home plate after hitting a home run.You can't make that stuff up.
As for the position Posey was in, he's lucky to just have a broken leg.The necxt time the 2 teams play, there will be at least 1 beabing, which leads to another beaning.This could go on for years.The G-men should take some self defense classes because the bench's will empty--Probably the next time these 2 teams meet.I'm almost as excited about it as SportsCenter!

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