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Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

Posted on: May 7, 2011 7:39 pm
Edited on: May 7, 2011 9:21 pm
 

Verlander

By Evan Brunell

When Justin Verlander tossed a no-hitter Saturday, he immediately vaulted himself into the best pitching performance of the young season, ahead of division rival Francisco Liriano's own no-hitter a mere four days ago.

The 28-year-old was dazzling against Toronto, taking a perfect game into the eighth inning before J.P. Arencibia battled him for a full-count walk on 13 pitches, fouling eight of them off. Verlander would have to settle for a no-hitter, the second of his career.

Verlander's performance included just one walk against four strikeouts on 108 pitches, and right there is why his no-hitter is more valuable than Liriano's. Yes, the very definition of a no-hitter means that walks are irrelevant, but no one likes to see a no-hitter with its imperfections laid bare for all to see. Liriano walked six batters and struck out two, laboring through 123 pitches.

It's awfully hard to look past these six walks, just like it was difficult to truly enjoy Edwin Jackson's own no-hitter last season. Of all the no-hitters tossed, Jackson's received the least fanfare, in no small part due to his eight walks allowed to the Rays.

Verlander was far more spot on with his pitches, notching 16 first-pitch strikes to 27 batters while Liriano compounded his control issues by starting off only 10 of 30 batters with a first-pitch strike. But while Verlander clearly wins the battle of better no-hitter when you look at walks, Liriano may boast the better stuff.

Batters ended up with a called or swinging strike 35 times against Liriano, notching just nine foul balls and 22 batted balls. Verlander, meanwhile, had 28 foul balls and 26 strikes of either the called or swinging variety. An additional 20 balls had contact made in play.

Those numbers indicate that Lirano's pitches were more effective in generating swings and misses while Verlander relied more on contact and got many of his advantageous strike outs thanks to foul balls. In Verlander's favor, however, is that his featured pitch was that of a fastball with an average speed of 97.5 mph. Even with one of the best fastballs in the game, batters are more geared up to make contact with the pitch. Contrast that to Liriano, who still featured his fastball but mixed in his slider extensively, which was more effective in being called a strike or swung and missed and is responsible for Liriano's ability to skirt his control issues to notch the no-no.

In the end, though, the walks remain the main issue. Liriano surrendered six, Verlander just one. That alone gives Verlander the nod for the more effective and impressive no-hitter.

At the end of the day, regardless of who pitched the better no-hitter, Justin Verlander and Francisco Liriano are both now the two pitchers with no-hitters in the 2011 season, and nothing can ever take that away.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 4:27 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 2:21 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

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Since: Nov 5, 2010
Posted on: May 8, 2011 3:49 am
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

It is good to see the start well. Verlander did better and talk it for year.



Since: Apr 8, 2010
Posted on: May 8, 2011 12:52 am
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

Mouthed off before posting correct statistics.  I apologize,  13 pitch at-bat against Arencibia.

I had also better clarify my-self from my previous post before I get chewed by the baseball purest that are posting.   I agree that a No-hitter is a No-hitter, but Verlander executed his better than Liriano did.   Liriano had 6 walks  to Verlanders 1, (which to me was debatable)    To me, Francisco Liriano and Edwin Jackson's no-hitters weren't memorable.

You'll always remember a perfect game, or how close "he" was to a perfect game but got the no-hitter.  3 years from now Liriano will be just a name on a list of players that pitched no-hitters throughout history.   With Verlander, and his track record you my see another before his career is over. 



Since: Apr 8, 2010
Posted on: May 8, 2011 12:27 am
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

Verlander's no-hitter was hands down better than Liriano's.   Verlander was a BB away from a Perfect Game.   And the walk was a 8-9 pitch at-bat from J.P. Arencibia, which ended with a debateable call.  


Verlander's no-hitter was solid from a solid pitcher.  Liriano's was fluke considering he had never finished a complete game.



Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: May 7, 2011 10:56 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

I would have to say that Verlander's was better than Liriano's.......only because I'm a big Detroit Tigers fanCool.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: May 7, 2011 10:55 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

what the Fkuc are you yammering about?  Your incoherent diatribe has nothing to do with this board.  You, my friend, are an idiot, just in case no has told you that.



Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: May 7, 2011 9:17 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

to take anything away from a no hitter is crazy. a no hitter is a no hitter is a no hitter!



Since: Jun 15, 2008
Posted on: May 7, 2011 9:11 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

I tell you who i feel bad for is Gallaraga who got robbed of a Perfect game.  Now there is an acomplishment a PERFECT GAME....as far as Nolan Ryan i cant see any1 touching his 7 no hitters.....Congrats to Liriano and Verlander for there No Hitters.




Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: May 7, 2011 9:02 pm
 

Verlander's no-hitter better than Liriano's

For this so called writer to take away from Liriano's accomplishment is pretty bad. The writer obviously know little about baseball to even be qualified to write this article.  "Verlander would have to settle for a no-hitter, the second of his career that puts him halfway to Nolan Ryan's record four. Anyone want to doubt Verlander could take down Ryan's record?". Are you serious? You sir are an idiot.


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