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Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

Posted on: March 12, 2011 3:35 pm
 

LeeBy Evan Brunell

When ousted Rangers CEO Chuck Greenberg stated he felt the Rangers finished No. 2 behind the Phillies in the bidding for ace Cliff Lee, Yankees president Randy Levine ripped Greenberg for being "delusional."

And yet, Lee himself confirmed the order of teams he would have signed with as he tells Philadelphia radio station WIP.

"Texas probably finished second to be honest with you," Lee said. "Just as far as the quality of the team and the chance to win a World Series ring, I think they’re a better team. That’s just my opinion. The Yankees can do anything at any moment to improve and they’re not afraid to go do things. That was part of the decision making process too, but I felt like with what the Red Sox had done and it seems like some of the Yankee guys are getting older, but I liked the Rangers."

The Red Sox of course inked Carl Crawford to a major deal and traded for Adrian Gonzalez while also building the bullpen. The Yankees, meanwhile, are getting no younger but are just two years removed from a World Series title and is just one strong starting pitcher away from being a legitimate threat in October.

However, the Phillies are absolutely stacked and may have a better window of opportunity to win over the next several years than New York, doubly so when you look at the competition inside the division to finish first place. Texas, meanwhile, is a young team with quality players that should contend in the AL West for quite some time.

Phillies

The stacked Phillies team and road to a ring was the deciding factor in his decision, Lee said -- not money, as had been rumored for months. "Probably just the quality of the team," Lee said as to his No. 1 factor. "My chance to win a ring or even multiple rings. That was probably at the top.

"I tried to remove all the money and the smaller things and which team would give me the best chance to win," Lee added.

Although Lee has appeared in the previous two World Series, a ring still eludes him -- and he'd like that to change.

"I haven’t gone all the way yet. I haven’t won a ring and that’s what I want to do," he noted. "Hopefully I will get a few chances and walk away with a few rings. That’s really what it’s all about every year. That’s the ultimate goal and I wanna come through on that a few times."

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Since: Aug 4, 2009
Posted on: March 13, 2011 6:52 pm
 

Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

Lee said many times that the phillies' fan base was one of the big reasons for his decision.  the fans didnt trade him away.  i think the whole 'dissing new york' thing is mostly fabricated by the media. they are always trying to bait him into saying he didnt want to live in NY.

i never really hated on the yankees' spending.  in fact, i wanted my team to do it.  But i will say that the Phillies spending increase had a lot to do with keeping core players after becoming world champs.  Yeah they signed some big free agents, but they also had to replace quite a few players that were given big contracts elswhere.



Since: Apr 20, 2009
Posted on: March 13, 2011 5:56 pm
 

Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

I pretty  much agree with all that JimJohnson & Starblazer said.

You agree with them because, admittedly, they are Yankee-haters just like you are. 

I particularly like what they said because they got their point across without arrogantly trashing the Yankees or New York.

Oh, really? Because this isn't trashing ...

You've gotta love what has happened to the Yankees. After years of buying top players, there's an underlying sentiment that players simply do not want to be a part of the Yankees organization. Is it because of the "cheapened" or compromised achievement that comes with winning on an uneven playing field?

Right? because no other team has "cheapened" or compromised this achievement with all of the buying they have done in the past few years.  Truth be told, since the Yankees made their free agent signings of CC, AJ, and Tex a few years ago, they have been virtually non-players in the free agent marked.  Yet the Yankee-haters are unable to let it go.  They still cry and whine about the dreaded Yankees, while the Red Sox's, Phillies, etc of the MLB spend on free agents like druken sailors, but nay a word of criticism is leveled at those teams.  It is always the New York Yankees fault isn't it?

... and how is this gem for "non-trashing" ....

If anything, shouldn't the Yankees have an easier time attracting free agents now that there are once again only two teams battling for two playoff spots?

(I.e., Do tell ... besides Cliff Lee how many free agents have the Yankees not managed to attract recently?  An honest "non-trashing" poster would have correctly noted that the only free-agent the Yanks wanted, or even needed, this off-season was Cliff Lee.  Cliff Lee correctly realized that his chances were better with the Phillies given the great pitching staff they wil have this coming season including him.  What exactly is wrong with making that decision?  Contrary to popular opinion, the Yanks aren't the be all end all.  They are just a team trying to compete like every other team.  It is the haters, like the three in this thread that it make it more than it is. )

... and look at this beauty.  This poster calls this beauty "non-trashing ...

Too funny. The Yankees who arrogantly thought they could just throw money out and get Lee, finished 3rd. He called them an aging team to boot. I love the fact he implied they had a better chance of winning the WS then the Yankees as well. I guess Randy Levine got punked.Laughing

Truth be told, the Yankees threw just as much money at Lee as these other 3 teams.  Yes, they finished last.  And so what?  The player elects to pitch for a world series contender with possibly one of the greatest pitching staffs ever amassed, and all of a sudden this is supposed to be an insult to the Yankees?  And no doubt he would have rather have pitched for Texas.  Texas is admittedly not the zoo New York is.  His family no doubt would have been more comfortable in Texas than New York given their experience there during the playoffs.  When 3 teams are throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at you, money ceases to be an issue.  Othe factors come into play and given Lee's demeanor and disposition, it seems only obvioius that playing in a city like New York would be low on his preference list.

Make no mistake, the Yankess are my least favorite of all 30 teams. But, I'm not into trashing any team, their players or their fans just because it's the Yankees.

Sure you aren't *wink-wink*

Haters!








Since: Mar 8, 2011
Posted on: March 13, 2011 5:06 pm
 

Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

it was 2009 that we won a world series against him and the philly's was it not? so age didn't seem to stop us then. really lee you didn't want to come here to new york fine have fun in philly a team that traded you out of there and really didn't want you there atleast at the time. i think he just didn't have the balls to come pitch in the AL east maybe he can't stand the heat lol. anyways enjoy you self in philly the yankees will be fine with out you. we sure didn't need you to win any of are 27 world series so we will see you in the play-offs.



Since: Mar 31, 2009
Posted on: March 13, 2011 8:47 am
 

Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

I pretty  much agree with all that JimJohnson & Starblazer said. I particularly like what they said because they got their point across without arrogantly trashing the Yankees or New York. Make no mistake, the Yankess are my least favorite of all 30 teams. But, I'm not into trashing any team, their players or their fans just because it's the Yankees.

You two guys said it well...better than I probably would have. Tip of the hat for getting your point vividly across without falling into the personna of immature chest pounding and trash talking. As far as the Yankees, you guys still have a really good team...just not quite as good as in recent years past...not sure that's going to be enough this year...I could be wrong...we'll see!

I do appreciate Cliff Lee's candor and his approach of following his heart and not his checkbook. I wish more players would do that. Are you listrening, Albert?



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: March 12, 2011 8:46 pm
 

Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

Too funny. The Yankees who arrogantly thought they could just throw money out and get Lee, finished 3rd. He called them an aging team to boot. I love the fact he implied they had a better chance of winning the WS then the Yankees as well. I guess Randy Levine got punked.Laughing




Since: Oct 15, 2006
Posted on: March 12, 2011 4:32 pm
 

Cliff Lee admits Rangers were No. 2 choice

You've gotta love what has happened to the Yankees. After years of buying top players, there's an underlying sentiment that players simply do not want to be a part of the Yankees organization. Is it because of the "cheapened" or compromised achievement that comes with winning on an uneven playing field?
Certainly, the interdivisional competition with the Sox makes it more difficult to win a divisional pennant in the AL East, but both franchises have been elite for years, and it never seemed to affect the Yankee's ability to draw free agents into the division. And division pennants mean so much less since the advent of the WildCard - which allows both NYY and Boston to get to October - while the Rays have taken HUGE steps backwards this offseason. If anything, shouldn't the Yankees have an easier time attracting free agents now that there are once again only two teams battling for two playoff spots?
Other factors:
Cliff Lee loves Philly...he got along great with the other players, and he likes living in the city. In fact, the small town Arkansas boy has chosen a home downtown...in the 4th largest metro area. No one would have expected Lee to live in a city where his wife gets spit on!
Lee has indicated that he prefers NL baseball....its more 'real'. He likes the challenge of hitting and running bases. Plus, the DH rule eliminates so much strategy. Lee is a true lover of the game of baseball...and NL baseball is real; the DH is for beer-leagues.
So have the pinstripes lost their luster? They certainly do not guarantee World Series success like they did in the late 90s. And who wants to work for Steinbrenner's sons, anyway. Their Father may have been a jerk, but he was a winner. His sons are just the spoiled rich kids who were handed the keys to their Daddy's empire. George Castanza would have been a better choice to succeed the boss.


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